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He mentioned due diligence in his interview. I certainly didn't take that to mean he hadn't done any - just that the football is very different over here than it is there.

No problem. Thanks for your response

There was one poster on this thread who stated that an incident that had happened with the well bois at home that they witnessed - they were told that it didn't actually happen the way they described it.

But. They've been played down by some people in their own words -I think there has to be some balance between the the way some of the bois feel that they've been treated and some of the stuff that's apparently gone on at away games. There was one poster told that the perception was far from the reality - how do any of us know that. If someone sees sod and fans being abused at away games then that is their reality surely

There have been posters that have closed down any criticism and not only on here. On previous threads I'm not the biggest fan of police Scotland and I have reasons for that but my point is surely people should be able to say what they've seen at away games without being told they are talking rubbish. There are posters on here who have gone to away games and seen some of the bois act badly to be told that didn't happen. When they saw it with their own eyes. Like SOD having water thrown on him at Dingwall - and someone who objected got abused When people are saying this stuff -they should not be dismissed out of hand. And some people are being. I also think it's really concerning that someone on this forum said him and his wife got verbally abused and verbally threatened by motherwell fans because they weren't wearing Motherwell colours.. At an away game - that's grim I also completely get that we have horrible fans who aren't anything to do with the well bois - but no need. There is no need for any of it

All I will say on this post is that I agree that some people have closed down any criticism of the well bois and there has to be some kind of balance where people can criticise aspects of their behaviour - without being shot down.

I've had stuff said about me on here that is completely untrue - and those posts are still up - and thousands of people have probably read them. I think there has to be a line between being lenient and where posters accuse other people of stuff that isn't factual Some of the stuff that was posted about me by two posters on here really upset me but not as much as the post that said you're an idiot and you should get off these boards. I had someone on here plaster stuff about my personal life that they got completely wrong - all over the boards - when all they had to do was message me directly. If someone on here thinks another poster is an idiot - they can surely ignore them - or message them in private Of course it's going to drive people away. No one wants to be hung out to dry by other posters It's not just negativity - it's people going on the attack and saying stuff that has no basis in truth Plus. There's definitely a tone where some people don't like to be challenged and I'm not directing this at you - but some people have felt that the stuff theyve said on certain topics has been ridiculed - because it doesn't fit in with the majority this isn't an accusation against you - it's just an observation.. I think people need to be free to be able to say their piece - but when it crosses the line people are going to exit. By the way I'm not ban happy - but when you are on a forum and people are saying stuff about you that isn't true - you are on the back foot and you have to try and defend yourself - and you have to do that knowing the stuff that's been posted - isn't going to be deleted. Some of the stuff that was posted on here about me was really awful. Really triggering - it was just horrible to read - and it was also defamatory. I don't think anything justifies that. If its as lenient as that. People won't stay.

The legislation doesn't state a cut off period - just that a football related offence can include incidents before and after a game.

He said that they were abused and threatened as I said in previous posts. You're completely right - it potentially wasn't a physical altercation.

The person in the previous post said that himself and his wife had been threatened and abused by fans - I'm assuming he meant some of the well bois. I'm not perfect. Far from it but I've never gone to a game and threatened anyone. I think there has to be some kind of balance where people can appreciate the decent things that the well bois do - and say if they have concerns as well. There are people in our fan base that sneer at lots of people. We do have a toxic element in our fanbase on and offline.The only concern I have is that Motherwell fans abusing other Motherwell fans really doesn't reflect well on us. No more than that.

I have the utmost sympathy for anyone who has been wrongly charged or unfairly banned from Fir Park. But I'm sure a supporter posted on here that there was a physical alteration with a couple of the well bois when he and his wife went to an away game and they weren't wearing Motherwell colours because they wrongly thought he was an away fan. That's clearly the stuff that needs to stop - obviously.

He was carrying an injury towards the end of last season apparently

Accies

No one leaves here until they admit it 😂

Me too!

I honestly think we are brilliant and you can see how much team spirit there is when you see the videos I probably wasn't thinking we were brilliant at the Killie game when my nerves were in shreds but that's Motherwell

This is my view too.

Dan Casey for me

I think if Moses can come on late and get us the winner - I'd keep it like that for now - but I understand that he would feel like he needs game time too.

My brothers exact words were -we were decent until 1-1, then pretty dire but we stole it at the end. When Moses was being subbed on someone on twitter said too late... But I had a feeling he would score.

I think he's great.... That statement will be a surprise to no one

Yeah. They were already contracted until 2025.

Kettlewell spoke about working with Stuparevic on aspects of his game - I'd be surprised if he was sent out on loan.

We beat Livi and Rangers back to back Feb/March 24.

That makes no sense given hes currently injured