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He'll be leaving Motherwell to sign on if he doesn't get his arse in gear. I can't wait for the usual we can turn this around soundbites on the official site.

If he gives a toss about Motherwell fc he'll resign and resign now. He won't though, because no matter how crap we are, he's earning a fortune. He won't resign, we can't afford to sack him. Hello divsion one football. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

I remember the resign McGhee thread caused a bit of uproar in the summer, I don't think it would now, I hate to see Motherwell in this state. If McGhee cares about Motherwell in the slightest he'll go and go now. I know that people will say, who could do better, but on this showing, who would do worse. Time to go before we become the laughing stock of Scottish football.

I can't speak on behalf of anyone else but I think that things started to go a bit amiss during the summer, there was the issue with the concessions and the season tickets, the concession age being raised from 60 to 65. There was info about this on the official site, but nothing was very clear, people weren't sure why this had happened . Fans also weren't sure what would happen if someone was over 60 and already had a season. I think sometimes the problem is, when you are getting an explanation and information is given a bit at a time, by the time people do know the full reasons, frustration has already set in. With regard to the ticket issue, the concessions for the Old Firm and other concessions, this caused a lot of comment on unofficial sites and fans weren't happy, but then everything changed again and fans were left wondering what was going on. I know that there has been explanations given as to why the issue happened with the changes in prices but fans didn't know that so you have situations where fans think they can bring kids along for a reduced price. Then all of a sudden that disappears off the official site and is replaced by something else and it causes confusion. It isn't a dig at anyone but I think lately Motherwell fc have probably made life for themselves a lot harder than it needed to be. With regard to John Boyle, I don't know if this would come into the communication issue, but he has made decisions lately that made people seriously question whether they would be back at Fir Park at all. I think possibly the club underestimated the amount of fans who were upset about having shelled out for a season ticket and then discovered that they would have been cheaper or as well off paying cash at the gate. Maybe that issue caused so much ill feeling because fans just feel that they aren't consulted about anything, anytime.

I think there's sufficient information on the automated system when you phone the club, it's just that sometimes, you want to be able to speak to a person rather than leave a message on an answerphone. I had a situation recently which wasn't directly connected with being a Motherwell fan, I had to speak to someone in the club, it took me 2 days to be able to speak to an employee of the club and that was only when I made it clear that I needed to speak to someone in a very short timescale. I don't know of many businesses where no one seems to answer a telephone. It all seems to come down to investment in MFC, not enough employees to cope with a large sale of tickets, not decent enough software to be able to cope with online ticketing, letters being sent out in triplicate to some people and not to others, the undersoil heating debacle. I can perfectly understand why John Boyle doesn't want the open chequebook after we went into administration but when an SPL club is being run on a shoestring it leads to the above. It also seems to be leading to fans finally losing patience. Motherwell fc are going to have to do a lot and quickly if they want to show fans that they take the running of the club and the fans seriously.

True, I tried to phone the club for info about Nancy tickets and spent 2 days getting put straight to voicemail. I think a ballot would have been fairer, it would mean that people who travel could have a fairer chance and depending on the date and time tickets go on sale, if it's midweek, a lot of people will be at work.

Some fans weren't happy at the timing of the deals, perhaps they've been removed because they weren't popular but as usual, some communication wouldn't go amss.

I wasn't going to buy a season because I thought it would be cheaper to pick and choose my games because of the offers that were on the official site a couple of months ago. Does anyone know what happened with those offers?

A stepping stone away from greater things? We're a kick in the arse away from Division 1 football. It's time McGhee, Boyle and the rest got real. Will McGhee still be saying, we're only one game away from turning things round when we are anchored firmly to the foot of the SPL table? I seriously hope January brings some fresh faces because if not, I really fear for Motherwell this season.

I agree but the longer this poor run of form continues, people who might pay cash at the gate both home and away will stay away and as someone else said, it's at the time when the club needs fans the most. I don't blame people for having had enough of Boyle especially if fans feel kicked in the teeth over the pricing initiatives. I was looking for the link on the official site earlier for the pricing offers and I couldn't find it. I think most fans already know that the lack of communication and information from club to fans can be shocking. I don't know what it is going to take for the club to turn things round from the top down.

I think the most worrying thing is that a lot of supporters are saying they have had enough for a variety of different reasons and are starting to stay away from Fir Park.

Nonsense, why on earth should our place be at the lower end of the table? Of course we can't compete with the Old Firm but why does that relegate us to the bottom six of the table all the time? The reason I don't like the punching above our weight comments every time we lose a game is because we just use that as an excuse every time we are shite. We are rotten, och well, we are meant to be, we are just wee Motherwell. We get relegated, ah well, that's just Motherwell's lot. Absolute nonsense. On our day we can beat anyone and we can play decent football when we feel like it. Yes, our fans can be hyper critical but let's not confuse this with the fact that we are watching professional footballers play a game they are paid well enough to do. A manager who managed to successfully double his salary last year. Tell the St Mirren's, the Hamiltons, the ICT's, the Falkirks of this world that they are there to make up the numbers. It's not us, the supporters who need to get real, it's Boyle, Leitch, McGhee and those players who currently think all they need to do is turn up and all will be ok. I don't expect Motherwell to win the league, I don't expect Motherwell to win every cup going. I don't expect Motherwell to finish top six every season. What I do expect is a bit more effort and fight than the current shite we as fans are watching. From the top down at the moment, this club is a shambles, but why does it need to be this way? Because we are Motherwell and that's what we are used to?