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I like Callum Slattery

It's the same team Alexander left us with so we aren't going to see serious improvement until we get some new players in and a new manager. On twitter a lot of people were saying how great we were under Hammell and then one guy said we're still shite (which did make me laugh). We shouldn't have to rely on Kelly to save us but that's the way it's going to be until we get a decent striker in the door. Yeah St Mirren will be feeling hard done by but that's football. We've lost plenty of games over the years when we were by far the better team. St Mirren fans not happy on twitter, some of their fans really don't rate Robbo.

That would be the Liam Kelly who is on 200k a year and who conceded 3 goals against a team Motherwell should have beaten easily? Fans are to blame for the fact that Motherwell didn't get the equaliser at Fir Park? With all due respect to Liam that's a load of cobblers. The reason we didn't get the equaliser is because we don't have a prolific striker. Van Veen is too inconsistent. Efford hasn't produced the goods either. Absolutely it can't be nice to be in front of a hostile crowd but that's what happens in football at times. He's kidding himself on if he thinks a supportive crowd would have got us an equaliser. Look at the travelling support we took to the Livi game last season. Fans were behind the team from the off and it took that Lamie strike to secure top six. Kevin Van Veen has spoken to the press and been honest about his own poor performance without pointing the finger at Motherwell fans. Absolutely agree that alcohol in the mix didn't help. Even before kick off at Fir Park police were called to club 100 as it was getting a bit rowdy even though there was no trouble. The word my brother used to describe the team at the Sligo home game was rancid and he maybe missed two home games last season due to work so like a lot of fans he's been watching Motherwell regularly enough to come to a conclusion about how good or bad we are.

I don't think anyone should get a just fuck off if they are crap at their job. Most other jobs have probationary periods built in and if they aren't performing in that time normally six months they are shown the door. People deserve some employment security but football isn't that secure, managers know that when they take the job. They could put managers on a rolling contract and it would be up to them to accept it or not when they were offered the job. The issue is that the board offered Alexander an extended contract so if they've had to pay more money to get him out of that contract that's on them. They made that decision clearly based on the results he got before the end of 2021.

The board and Alan Burrows have to take responsibility for this mess. They must have been aware that feelings were running high over Alexander. Absolutely we need to be realistic given the budget we have and the players we have but every year we want to avoid relegation (of course) and if we can make top six. I don't believe Alexander downed tools after he got a new contract and we did scrape through more than a few games to get top 6 but the board and Burrows knew there was a section of the support who were talking about boycotts and not going back to Fir Park if he was manager next season. Of course managers need to take abuse on the chin but all I saw on twitter was demands for him to go for months. The board let this fester until it boiled over and we are 24 hours from the first game and no manager. I also get that Burrows has a job to do and maybe won't want to face criticism on social media but he's tweeted nothing for a week. I'm not demanding an explanation from him but if you expect fans to buy season tickets and merch particularly given that we are in Europe then surely there should be a bit of accountability when things go wrong. If folk want to boo the team and the manager fair enough but giving the manager abuse mid interview? Someone grabbing his mic off him and giving him abuse? Too far and it could have been prevented. The boards indecision helped cause this situation. It just makes us look like arseholes when actually Motherwell fans are on the whole a very decent fan base. As for Liam Kelly of course he's entitled to his opinion but part of me thinks he should just sit the fuck down and say his piece another time. He's our highest paid player and its us who help pay his wages. I think he's an excellent player as well. I just think it's crap when you have fans who haven't liked Alexander and have expressed it privately or in an non offensive way and are getting the finger pointed at them when the team haven't been delivering for months. I hope the folk at the top learn from this mess.

A motherwell fan tweeted after the Sligo home game that he had never seen such a poisonous atmosphere inside Fir Park in all the time he has been supporting Motherwell. What I mean is fans were openly discussing how poisonous they thought the atmosphere was. I don't think Liam is that active on twitter but he has an account and I assume he'll also have seen some of the abuse flung Alexander's way on social media I was in the east stand and it wasn't that bad where I was but other people said it was awful in their part or the stand

I don't go to football to boo players or the manager. Never have no matter how badly we play but that's just me. Sometimes frustrations boil over and obviously they have here. I personally think Alexander had lost a section of the fan base so badly that it was just a matter of time before he was gone. I actually said this to my brother yesterday if Alexander goes and in a year the same thing happens again is another manager going to be forced out the same way? It was obvious that he wasn't going to stay after the European games. Fans would have been on his back from the off. I absolutely don't condone anyone grabbing the managers mic and abusing him. I just think it got a bit too personal with Alexander. I said that the other night on twitter. He was getting criticised for anything by the end. Not playing injured players and not playing suspended players. I saw people criticise him for his accent. In hindsight he probably should have gone earlier in the season for his sake as much as anyone else's but that's hindsight. The frustrations have clearly come from us losing to a team we should have beaten comfortably. The daily rancid is out to make headlines so its possible what Liam has said has been put together in the most sensational way (no shit sherlock).

I very much agree with you. I don't think today was the time or the place. He's completely entitled to his opinion as is Alexander. If people abuse you of course you have a public right of reply. But you have a situation where Alexander left on a positive note at least publicly and the next day Kelly is in the press criticising the fans. It's just the timing that's off and basically if the players had done the business on the park since January we wouldn't be having this conversation anyway. Players also need to take responsibility as well and he does say that in the interview.

The main criticism from Kelly seems to be that the atmosphere turned toxic at Fir Park when Sligo scored. I do think that some of the stuff directed at Alexander over the months was over the top and it hasn't been just lately its been from when we went on that poor run after Christmas. There were fans last night on twitter making laughing gifs and celebrating that he was going. I think with Alexander some people just didn't like him. They didn't like his style of play plus the way he delivered interviews. The bottom line is though people will all react differently. I don't go to Fir Park to boo the team or the manager but some people will when they feel frustrated and when you have a group of people all feeling the same way it was obvious that a section of fans wouldn't be happy until he was gone. There were people saying they weren't going to renew their season tickets even when we got the European place and even getting 5th spot wasn't enough to placate a section of the support

I wasn't comfortable at some of the stuff I saw levelled at Alexander. On twitter in particular but people have their opinions and fans booed in one home game as far as I know and obviously at the away game too. That's not hounding a manager out by any stretch of the imagination. I've personally never said anything negative about Alexander on my social media. Kelly has probably looked at some of the comments fans have been making on twitter and not been happy. I like Kelly as a player but he's on a six figure salary yes? Same as Alexander would have been. Yes he saved us lots of times last season but we've just crashed out of Europe having been well beaten by a team we should have beaten easily. Fans have the right to be unhappy and Alexander said himself last week that being booed didn't bother him. If Alexander did leave for the sake of the club its disappointing to see it being spun another way now.

But that was the situation Alexander was in when Robbo left. I completely get where you are coming from but there are fans who wouldn't have given Alexander time. Even a win tomorrow wouldn't have been enough for a lot of fans after the Sligo games. There was talk of fans not renewing tickets even before the European games. It is terrible timing but the alternative could have been 4 or 5 games in and zero points on the board. We are always relegation favourites in a lot of people's eyes anyway.

I can't see that happening. His style is too similar to Alexander. We need a fresh face. He's probably happy enough where he is as well.

I'm one of these fans who would take a last minute goal over entertaining football but that's just me. Probably because I've been going long enough like lots of folk on here that you'll take 3 points no matter how you get them:) My brother has been going to fir park over 30 years now and I've never seen him as disillusioned with Motherwell as I have last season. He just thought the football was dire. I do understand completely though why fans want to be entertained. Fans pay the money and even though our club does a lot of decent offers to get fans through the doors it's still not cheap and people want a return for their money. I think Slattery has a lot of potential and I'd like to see him develop.

I understand why fans are saying he should have been punted before the European game but I suppose the board felt that he got us there and had to be given the chance to see it through. I felt very sad last night. I've had lots of discussions with my brother over the months over Alexander, he wasn't a fan. I just personally feel once that fans start shouting for a managers head as loudly as they did with Alexander there was no way back. The reason I feel sad is that in the beginning it really looked like he had brought confidence to the team. European result aside he saved us when we were in freefall. We never sack managers apparently, my brother told me this last night but if you read the full statement it says that he asked to speak with the board yesterday morning. Alan hasn't posted on twitter since the home leg and part of me doesn't blame him and I'm aware he has a young family and other commitments as well but clearly people are unhappy and they have the right to be. I've seen people say the mistake he made was not replacing Watt. I'm not sure if I agree on that but Van Veen isn't consistent enough for me and I do like him. We need another striker My brothers view was that we weren't prepared enough for that game and should have had 5 or 6 friendlies or closed door games in preparation. I personally wouldn't want Robbo back at Motherwell. I think what's the most gutting for me is that how often do we get into Europe and look at how it ended. Clearly getting into Europe just papered over the cracks and gave Alexander more time. I didn't even watch the commentary of the game on twitter on Thursday night. Couldn't face it. I knew we had lost when my brother texted me saying Alexander should stay in Ireland. On a side note does anyone know if the club are going to go ahead with the free tickets for low income or unemployed fans? I've not seen anything online about it since they asked for the donations? I think the applications went in quite late last year. I will contact the club but just thought I would ask on here.

I also think Callum Slattery is an amazing footballer and I am really happy that he got the first goal.

Very happy? I’m over the moon. My brother who is one of the most positive people when it comes to Motherwell is scunnered and I get it. The football is awful at times. But look at the post match interview Alexander gave. Don’t tell me that isn’t someone who cares about Motherwell and football because he clearly does. For context I’ve been going to Fir park since 1987 and Alexander is my favourite manager and I will stand by that. And I speak as someone who cried when Robbo left

I don’t go to away games these days, I’m maybe in the minority but I hope Alexander stays. As someone else said we were in free fall before he took over. It would be ridiculous to sack him just now. Top six even if it’s by the skin of our teeth. I was watching the scores online and when county scored I thought that was it but even if we did play rubbish football today in previous seasons if we had gone 2-1 down I think we would have struggled to get the equaliser . Of course people want to watch entertaining football but it’s results that matter and hopefully next season we will be playing like Brazil , (joking, hopefully next season things will gel a lot better). We never do things the easy way but that’s Motherwell (and we also lost Watt although he hasn’t exactly been banging the goals in for Utd). Sorry that Lamie is leaving.

I personally think Stephen ODonnell gets far too much criticism. Way too much. I thought he had a solid game today. I also really like Graham Alexander on so many levels. He praises his players when they deserve it. The thing that struck me today was the backing the fans gave the players. At one point the whole of the east stand was on their feet clapping the players and that was when we were at 2-2. For me the one thing I was happy about today was the win so that people would give Alexander a break. For context I’ve been going to fir park since 1987 and I don’t think he’s a poor manager. Also. If you go on twitter tonight you will see their fans calling for Robbos head. Yes Alexander has made mistakes but 3 points next week and we are top six. That will do me. The fans were phenomenal today and they really should be applauded for that. I’ve not seen support like that for the team in a long time. The whole stand was on its feet clapping the team and that’s the way to get behind them. Particularly when we’ve been struggling lately.

You must have been at a different game from me if you think we troubled Hearts goal once in the second half.

I’ve been bullied in more than one job. The last one I raised concerns 3 times, as did colleagues who were also being bullied. Nothing changed. I left. I raised issues that I did not feel able to when I was there the week after I left. Not years later. I understand that given the age of the lad involved and the stuff going on at home for him at the time if he had concerns he might have felt unable to raise them then. But to wait until a significant time has passed and then voice them on twitter? That’s not the way to do it. It’s past history. It has nothing to do with Motherwell F.C. and it was done on a platform that gives Robinson no right of reply. He could have contacted the club privately. He doesn’t deserve any twitter abuse from anyone connected with this club. But he shouldn’t have done this to Robinson in this way. Nothing to do with mfc in my view. A twitter witch hunt as far as I’m concerned and totally inappropriate given the subject of the video. I’ve lost someone to suicide and the message has to get out there.

I have a mate who was from Palestine and would be killed on sight if he went back. I dont like celtic as a football club, but good for them for doing their bit for Palestine. Someone needs to.

Totallly agree with you. Ive been going to fir park for a long time, almost 3 decades and this is the best season we have had in a good few years.

I dont think theres anything wrong with Celtic fans supporting Palestine. Particuarly with the events of the last few days. Good for them.

Get a grip. We were battling relegation last season. Two finals in one season isnt good enough for you? Ive stood on the fir park terraces and watched us get pumped by the likes of Morton and Raith Rovers. Two cup finals in one season isnt good enough for you? What will be?

Surprised that a report went to the PF if he wasn't actually charged with assault. Fiscals normally make the decision to prosecute, drop a case or consider alternatives to a matter going to court after the police have investigated and made the decision whether to charge someone or not. Which would involve taking statements from people who witnessed the alleged incident and could take days or weeks. Police can obviously return and charge someone at a later date after they have been arrested but still think it's strange that he was released without charge yet a report went to the PF a matter of hours after he was arrested. Not sure that that's normal procedure at all. And quite a lot of stress for someone to go through if they havent actually been charged with a crime because it can take months for a PF to make a decision. Well done to him for the award, all the press I read in the run up thought that it was going to be Leigh Griffiths. As for the incident itself, hopefully things will be sorted out sooner or later and he and the club can move on from it.