Juan Kerse

Take the point? Aye.

100% Agreed. Also easier to loan very good goalkeepers due to the unwillingness of managers to rotate them. Most clubs like to keep two good strikers on the bench with another two or three waiting in the wings.

Aye but the idea is we will need to meet the 'quota' of fans signing up in order to do the cheap deal + give out a free season ticket as well. If 4000 or whatever fans don't sign up to the cheap season ticket then we just don't give the freebies out. If we get the 4000 signing up anyone who would have paid in will have a season ticket anyway so the freebie will be used to bring complete 'irregulars' along - costing the club nowt in forecasted gate receipts but increasing attendances and 'matchday' income!

If we are still playing at Fir Park

Some decent ideas there Andy. I might be wrong but I'm sure they administer 10 game or so packages in Baseball due to the amount of games they have. A 'christmas' package might be an idea, there are always 2 or 3 home games around the Christmas/New Year time. No harm in something like £30 for the three - especially if it was 'lesser' games.

Ok. Hike PATG prices up to £30 accross the board and make Season Tickets £199 - accross the board with free Direct Debit facilities. We will see how many 'Die Hards' prefer to PATG then.

I think you are missing the point. The aim over the next few years is to keep the 'home' fans there as pretty soon it is going to drop below 4000 for an 'average' game if it hasn't done so already. But by trying to keep everyone here and perhaps entice a few old faces back we could easily attract a few 'floaters' into a game or two very easily as well.

Na. That might bring back 2 or 3 people (literally) to a Season Ticket. In times like this it comes down to cold hard cash. When people have to justify the gate entry in comparison with a list of things a mile long it comes down to cost. Simple as that. I haven't been to a game since Hearts away and I'm not going to be at Falkirk or Aberdeen and I will really have to look hard at £36 to see if Hibs and Killie at home is worth it - in fact in typing that I have realised, no way in a million years is it and I'm no goin!! Cost - simple as that.

Agreed. I've bored people at length with chat about pshycological pricing - making prices seem alot cheaper without actually dropping them by much. For instance I doubt of we halfed the £20 average price at FP to a tenner we would double our gate. However people I know who go to the odd game a year have said to me they would 'go most weeks' if it was £15. It just seems a fairer price. Of course it is still a rip off when you could watch a hollywood blockbuster with A List actors in it, get your pop corn and a hot dog for that price - but it just seems fairer. A big purple £20 is a figure people are less likely to part with for little or no (or sometimes PLUS) change. I still think the answer lies with Season Tickets. Get people signed up at the start of the season for a much cheaper price. And yes, Bradford still do this 'scheme' whoever was asking.

Right forget all the other 'reduce ticket prices' threads - it isn't going to happen. At least not overnight and until an entire overhaul of the Scottish game comes along with it. I think the answer lies with a BIG discount on Season Tickets. The 'Bradford' scheme where if the club get enough nomial deposits over certain thresholds then the ST price comes way down. This way the club would get the increase in gates every week - as let's face it, it could be a tenner and in deep winter midweeks against fellow guff some fans simply wouldn't stump it up. If people have paid 'in advance' then 95% of them are there every week. I am sure bradford asked for a small deposit (could be £4 or something!) and ended up giving away tickets for under £150 as they got 10,000 deposits or 'promisies'. They even gave every one who bought a season ticket a free one too - so they could fill the ground every week!! We could maybe try:(based on Adult prices only) 3000 - 3499 Status Quo - £280 I believe? 3500 - £235 3600 - £230 3700 - £225 3800 - £220 3900 - £215 4000 - £210 4100 - £205 4200 - £200 4300 - £195 4400 - £190 4500 - £185 All of these figures bring in roughly the same approx income as the status quo - (based only on Adult though) and then there are the obvious benefits of increasing your matchday market at the bar, shop, catering etc.. There could of course even be a 'Super Target' of 5000+ Season Tickets for £150/160!! I think 4500 though is a realistic target - Most 'good' weeks we can attract that many punters to Fir Park. We can even look into giving away one for free (or another £20 or something to stop people just taking it for the hell of it) to everyone (that wanted one - bring yer granny!) as we would have covered the income we normally get anyway!! There should still even be enough to give the OF their allocation too when they want it!! In all we have to be real here and accept that there are 4500 customers of Motherwell FC and do everything possible to get their backsides on a plastic seat every other Saturday. Failing to do so and letting the plastic seat sit empty when someone is sitting at home willing to pay for it is and will continue to be one of the biggest follies of our time.

Simple answer to this - in fact the only answer if we want the game to survive. Bring back 50/50 gates and get a 16 team league on the go. If not in 5/10/15 years time we will have SPL crowds at Motherwell/Killie/St Mirren of 2500 (or nothing at all....) and Crowds of 30,000 odd at Ibrox/Parkhead where they will take turns of winning the league by 25 clear points in Easter with a team full of snapped up players from provincial clubs while complaining about no competition (like now I suppose!) IF we do a 50/50 (or even 60/40) with a 16 team league we COULD facilitate competition as clubs will survive and if Hibs or Utd go on a run like this season they don't have to go to Glasgow FOUR times where they are virtually guarenteed 0,1 or 2 points from 12. This alone will stop anyone winning the league!! 16 teams, 50/50 gates. 10er ticket prices all over the shops = big crowds, competition, better quality, european success!! Simples!!!

Wednesday Night, End of Month, £20+ Petrol = Fucking NO chance

That, or today could have actually been free admission for kids and a few quid for adults today! How many ACTUALLY paid £20 odd quid at the turnstyle - 200 St Mirren fans - maybe 100 'Well fans if you are lucky. Get the bodies in and make it look a bit fuller on the telly. Madness that this or a similar scheme wasn't rolled out today.

Fucking spot on Sir!!! People can go out of blind loyalty all they want - but it hasn't taken me long to work out that £150 a month on football for petrol and tickets every week is INSANE money to be spending!! I have said MANY times on here that the price just needs to come down a bit. EVERY other business in the LAND has reduced prices during the recession - has football? Hell they effectively RAISED prices due to not passing VAT cuts on. Until football wakes up from it's coma while sitting in the pilots chair of a 747 heading for a big fuck off mountain I'm voting with my feet and going when I want to. And I'm not going to go in the last week before payday of a 6 week month when it is on the telly in my living room for free!!

Posted this in match thread but this thread seems appropriate? Why didn't we let kids - or even ANYONE in for free today!??? With the Free ESPN deal this weekend (I bought it anyway to get the Rangers game in the house too) I am a bit bemused as to why the club isn't doing EVERYTHING they can to get arses on seats. Like you say, regulars like myself and ST holders perhaps with travel expenses to take care of will be giving it a miss and the place is going to look very deserted. This doesn't look good and although I'm part of the problem for opting for ESPN I siply can't justify £18 on the gate plus £10+ on petrol for a game that I can watch in my living room in my fecking under crackers. Many will feel the same and you can't blame them. This could lead to a crowd of sub 3000. Solution? How about free schools tickets? - literally deliver hundreds of wee vouchers or something to every school in a 15 Mile radius. Perhaps accompanying adults in for a tenner. This is THE game we should be doing this. There will be practically ZERO cash income on the gate so WHY NOT?? OK, so it won't bring much cash in but the seat is lying there EMPTY anyway. It could put a thousand or so punters in front of the cameras and if even one wee kid persuades his dad to bring him back surely it is worth it.

If someone had given me a ticket to the game, a run up and back and a pie at the game I still wouldn't have bothered. And that doesn't bother me either!

That geezer is a total sad case aint he!!! Fucking unbelievable the shite he comes out with!!!

With the Free ESPN deal this weekend (I bought it anyway to get the Rangers game in the house too) I am a bit bemused as to why the club isn't doing EVERYTHING they can to get arses on seats. Like you say, regulars like myself and ST holders perhaps with travel expenses to take care of will be giving it a miss and the place is going to look very deserted. This doesn't look good and although I'm part of the problem for opting for ESPN I siply can;t justify £18 on the gate plus £10+ on petrol for a game that I can watch in my living room in my fecking under crackers. Many will feel the same and you can't blame them. This could lead to a crowd of sub 3000. Solution? How about free schools tickets? - literally deliver hundreds of wee vouchers or something to every school in a 15 Mile radius. Perhaps accompanying adults in for a tenner. This is THE game we should be doing this. There will be practically ZERO cash income on the gate so WHY NOT?? OK, so it won't bring much cash in but the seat is lying there EMPTY anyway. It could put a thousand or so punters in front of the cameras and if even one wee kid persuades his dad to bring him back surely it is worth it. Perhaps this is happening but I haven't heard anything

Anyone there Love the commentator, the 'Well strip and the crowd Clicky The other vids are amazing too. The crowds crack me up!! I guess when you worked like a bitch in some factory or mine all week and the fitba was pennies to get in you bloddy went in those days!!!

That is quality!! It could save the wee mob as well!

Aw well, the bright side is it saves a horrible fixture against Killie or Falkirk that would set you back a few notes. Yea!!!!!

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2-0 ICT Almost

Good, because you were a complete and utter epic fail last time you did that...