Ya Bezzer!

Well I am entertaining the possibility that we lose all 5 games so it's a weird kind of positivity. 🤣

You know why you shouldn't bother? Because when you have relative success like achieving Top 6, Europe and the later stages of cup competitions our fans throw it back in your face. I'm afraid the kind of football and the kind of success a lot of our fans want only happens once in a blue moon when year and years of work comes together and otherwise is mainly dependent on what mostly makes the world go round - money. Ever wondered why we gut the team every season and things don't seem to get much better? Cos we pay a certain level of wages and there's a level of player that you get for that expenditure. Sure some are better than others but it averages out. It's that simple. So what you call defeatist, I call a realistic outlook. I've been going to Fir Park for 43 years. I've seen maybe 5 or 6 individual teams that actually played good football and a few of them were in a completely different football environment before massive wage increases and player contract rights. The funny thing is players like Ally Maxwell, Dougie Arnott or Jamie Dolan who were developed by the club over 3 or 4 years before they hit their stride would be sent packing by fans these days who have absolutely no patience and demand instant success. And the one trophy we have won in all that time would never have happened if the fans had had their way.

As it stands we have a 4 point advantage, or more, over all 4 teams below us. Even if we lost every match in the bottom 6, Kilmarnock and Ross County would need 4 points at least (goal difference is too close to really mean much right now so I'm not even taking that into consideration), Dundee would need 5 and St Johnstone would need 10. In the last 5 matches those clubs have taken the following Kilmarnock - 4 pts Dundee - 7 pts Ross County - 3 pts St Johnstone - 5 pts. So the worst possible scenario of us getting 0 points and using the others recent forms as an indicator, we still stay up. Even getting 1 draw makes it unlikely we finish lower than 9th. No team in the Bottom 6 has more than 1 win in their last 5 matches apart from Dundee. The chances of three teams leaping over us seems very unlikely.

How is it defeatist to actually acknowledge we got to a semi final this year?

There's been a couple of times in the last 5 or 6 years when were were in deep shit. The post police charge collapse under Robinson and the whole Hammell era which only came into being because another manager was forced out the club. Motherwell fans need to get a grip. In the natural order we are a Bottom 6 club every season and the only time we aren't are when we over achieve and others underachieve. 'That prat' had this team Top 6 all season, achieved a semi final, saved us from relegation once and had us comfortable last season. Sure it's a little bit nervy going into the last stage of the season but the only non city team that's better than us this term is St Mirren and then only by a small margin. Our fans need to get some perspective and stop the doom/crisis/it's never been worse/gut the club cycle.

I think 1 win will keep us safe. Don't see three teams leaping over us with the points advantage we have if we can get to 42 points. However the fact that we have 3 away matches and our away form is absolute garbage does make me feel a bit nervous. Beat St. Johnstone and we'll be fine. Lose that match and it's going to be a nervous end to the season. You have to remind yourself that most of the teams in the Bottom 6 would love to be in our position even if our recent performances have been abysmal. Surely we've got one good performance in us?

Fine today in that he didn't cost us a goal. Our full backs are garbage though, they offer absolutely nothing going forward which has been a basic part of the game for about 5 decades now.

Says a lot of the standard of Scottish football that that dismal fare was served up by two teams going for a Top 6 place. Neither deserved one. Honestly, 96 minutes of one big mistake. The seagulls had better movement. We've had 5 shots on target in the last 4 matches. Only positive is that Ross County and St Johnstone lost so **probably** one win keeps us safe. But even that seems like a big ask the way we are performing.

I'm not going to spoon feed you facts that you'll ignore anyway but I think you'll find both KVV and Spittal scored most of their goals under Kettlewell. I mean KVV literally scored twice as many goals in 1/3 of a season under Kettlewell. than he did in the previous 2. Kettlewell also took Theo Bair and made him a goalscorer and I'll even put my hands up and say he proved me very wrong on that signing. If you think for a minute that Hammell's side wasn't poorer that this one then, well I'll leave it at that., because all the facts are there. And I don't know if we'd have been better off under Kettlewell but your claim is purely imaginary,

With all due respect I think this is a load of rubbish. Hammell's team was worse and in a much worse position, relegation very much on the cards, and Kettlewell came in and not only turned it round but went on a great run. Wimmer has had multiple chances to secure a Top 6 position and not done it. Of course he needs time to mould his own team and no one is saying he won't do a job in the long run but that doesn't mean that he's doing as well as he should be. I alluded to it before but I'll just say it out loud now, the two key players in that squad are Lennon Miller and Tawanda Maswanhise, and so far he's show he doesn't recognise that or how to utilise either player effectively. To me that's a bit concerning. Managers that try to impose their own style over the strengths of a squad usually either have to concede and change or fail.

Wimmer isn't going to be fired. He's not even had a window. However I've not been that impressed with what I've seen so far. As I said when he was appointed he doesn't know the league or the players and I think that's show rather glaringly so far. He's got a lot to learn and I think he's going to have to adapt his own views on the game to suit a Scottish context better. Creatively, I think we've gone backwards, the two key players in the squad he's not utilised properly, we've not keep a clean sheet since he arrived and our away form is absolutely abysmal. This Hearts match is huge. Win and at the very least we go to 41 points, a historically safe number, and potentially a Top 6 place. Lose and all the momentum goes the other way. I don't really think we are any worse than most of the league, the table shows that, but form and confidence are huge at this stage of the season and I do think the situation with Kettlewell leaving has adversally effected the players morale and if we end up in the Bottom 6 I think a lot of the signs are pointing the wrong way.

Honest to God. You'd really rather go into this game as a dead rubber?

If Kettlewell had played Wimmer's tactics and team selections he'd be getting absolutely slaughtered.

It's the good players we part ways with.

Obvious what the issues are. Our away form is abysmal. Last 12 we've won 2 drawn 1 and lost 9. And only 1 win in the last 9 away matches which was at Ibrox. Post Kettlewell we are 2-1-4, never kept a clean sheet and have conceded 2+ goals in the majority of the matches. (2,3,3,4).