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  1. I wouldn't be too disappointed with Yogi, I think his record at Falkirk was good and he was initially very good at Hibs. I think we have to accept we are either going to get a novice or someone who is out a job. We aren't going to get a good manager who is currently in a job. At the same time I wouldn't be distraught with Calderwood, who has a great record at SPL level. I think Hughes is better working with younger players.
  2. That's funny, I heard the guy doing the pitch inspection was from here, there and everywhere too.
  3. For me, step up Ross Forbes in his natural position. Something we didn't see at all if I remember correctly under Craig Brown.
  4. Agreed Buxe, we're Motherwell, a 2-1 defeat is neither irregular or cause for concern.
  5. That's what I thought Sieb, even if they weren't confident of an appeal succeeding (that spelling doesn't look right but fuck it), at least it shows they are backing Jennings' integrity (word of the season in Scotland).
  6. Joeboy

    Surreal

    If the outcome of it is sinister, it could be someone in Liverpool who has it in for Jennings wanted to see him sent off, so consulted with the referee. This thing will grow arms and legs until it's closed.
  7. Joeboy

    Surreal

    Aye, that's very true. The only way that's it's conceivable that Jennings took part in it, is that if he consulted with the referee as well as those betting. Very highly extremely unlikely.
  8. Joeboy

    Surreal

    Me and my old man were talking about that last night actually. The amount of times you saw on camera players saying words like "Aw for fuxache Willie" and you just saw Willie smirk and get on with it. We are now living in the powderpuff era.
  9. Joeboy

    Surreal

    Yeah that's what I'm saying. In this case the ref contradicts himself. But the only time I think foul and abusive language should be punished is if it's personal, "fuck off" or "get to fuck" isn't that personally offensive.
  10. Joeboy

    Surreal

    In the context of things, yes. Given the ref was being really petulant to start with, but I believe players are grown men and officials are grown men and if they are unable to take a sweary word here and there they shouldn't be in the job.
  11. Joeboy

    Surreal

    I've barely posted in months so here's all my opinions from then rolled into one on this topic: You could say Scottish Football is at an all time low, it has been getting that way for a long time. Coaches are encouraging athleticism just as much as footballing ability, the referees are rank, the prices are too high, the entertainment is scarce. You see referees getting punished in other countries, but here is seems any publicity is good publicity. If you hear of a referee having a howler, more often than not he'll continue to get an SPL game every week after it. I remember one incident last season, Neil Warnock was managing Crystal Palace at the time, I think it was against Bristol City. The ball hit the back of the net and came back out, and the ref never gave a goal. If I remember correctly the goal had a direct effect on the game, and Palace were angry and rightly so. The referee and his linesman were both suspended for two weeks. I know that was an extreme incident, but I think that being introduced in Scotland wouldn't be an at all bad thing. I know most referees don't struggle for a day job, when you hear of them being Financial Advisors, Lawyers but I'm sure they would notice £1,600 being missing due to there competency levels being unacceptable, these would soon rise. I'm not saying Celtic were justified in their conspiracy theories, not in the slightest, but if you ask me the result of Dougie MacDonald admitting he's lying should have resulted in the referees being more closely watched, not them spitting the dummy about people questioning their integrity. Decisions, maybe not of that calibre but certainly not much worse happen for teams like St. Mirren, Hamilton and Inverness on a weekly basis. No one is out to get Celtic, the standard on a whole is just so bad, it's just the nature of football that the bigger the club, the more publicised the decision will be. If one of your colleagues admits he has covered something up, people will question your intergrity, it's inevitable, it's only human. If the referee's were all so concerned about their reputation's being tarnished they should have called for MacDonald's head. But they didn't because if you ask me, they have all either lied before or will lie in the future. I see today that O'Riley has said Jennings was sent off for foul and abusive language, but we clearly see the red card was out before Jenno could say anything. While that's not a bare-faced lie, it's bending the truth slightly. If I was sent off for tapping a ref on the shoulder, I'm sure I speak for 99% of men who have played a game of competitive football in their life when I say that I would have followed that up by saying something foul or abusive to the referee. This is yet another blatant cover up. Being only 20, I'm a relatively new supporter, I started going to the games in 1996/97, which I think has coincided with the decline of the game. Our National Team has gone it's longest in history without a major tournament, and I think a lot of that has to be attributed to what happened the last time we reached one. Post World Cup 1998, our team had badly stagnated and we could barely freshen it up due to Brown bicking the majority of the same players throughout his period in charge. Adding Gary Naysmith, Barry Ferguson and Billy Dodds to that ageing group of players was hardly going to stop us from the slump. Berti Vogts is criticised for his time as Scotland manager, and rightly so but part of me feels sorry for him as to how little he actually did inherit from Brown's era. Ever since, the way the SFA has been coaching youngsters has had a knock on effect on the poor standard of player we are seeing now. It seems now players are being coached too heavily on the likes of athleticism and versatility, without a thought to technique and ability. If a player can run a marathon but he can't trap a ball and play a five-yard pass there's something wrong. As for versatility, as Cloudy touched on in a previous thread, you would never catch Barca playing Xavi out wide, but here in Scotland you see players like your Fitzpatrick's, your McGarry's who are "decent" at several positions but not brilliant in any. Then you get the opposite end of the spectrum, someone like Ross Forbes, who has genuine ability as a creative midfielder, is shunned out wide, like a fish out of water, which he doesn't have the attributes to play. That almost shows that we reward versatility and treat it better than we do ability. I'm not that naive to think that most teams, especially a team of our calibre can afford to have a natural back up in every position, but it's plain to see how the likes of Sutton and Murphy are far more effective through the middle than they are out wide, although both of them put in a shift etc. Craig Levein being in charge of our National Team is also something that scares me. Speaking from experience, Scotland are going to have to soak up pressure from a lot of international teams, but the way he deployed us both in Kaunas and in Prague was shocking. Czech Republic are a team currently going through what I mentioned above, that we went through post World Cup 98. The likes of Poborsky, Nedved and Koller are gone without replacements of a similar calibre, those are teams we should be looking at being better than and beating home and away, not playing without a striker against. We have a similar population to Holland, when you look at the players they produce compared to players we produce, you think we would maybe take a leaf out their book. For example, they play Van Bommell as a midfield anchor, an established player in that position who has spent his career at Barcelona and Bayern Munich, whereas we play Lee McCulloch there who has reinvented himself several times over the course of his career, not looking natural in any position along the way. Last night if I was a Hearts fan I wouldn't even have given going to the game as much as an afterthought, as I was saying to the folk I sit with at the games, less than two weeks before Christmas, freezing night, can catch every kick on the telly, twenty quid out your pocket. As much as the television era is making football suffer, I do contribute to it. I do go to a number of away games every year, but television leads me to pick and choose, albeit we aren't away from home on the tv very often, but knowing I could catch the game would lead me to save my money for a game that I wouldn't be able to see. As much as television detracts from attendances, the extra money given to clubs as a result makes you wonder how it would balance out. Despite all the above, I can't see a time when I would ever stop going to see Motherwell, home games especially, not that a narrow defeat could tip me over the edge anyway. My job for about a year meant I had to work just about every Saturday, this was torture when I saw or heard people going to Fir Park. If a games on at Fir Park and I'm not there it just doesn't feel right. As much as the game can be boring, flat, monotonous even painful I can't imagine not being there. If I'm watching a game on tv, if the standard isn't up to much I'll turn it off and do something else, but with Motherwell it goes far beyond entertainment. Maybe I've just not been suffering for as long as you lot, but I can't ever see myself "not renewing".
  12. Joeboy

    Hearts

    Gow shaded Lasley for me. Although it didn't always come of his vision was superb. Hateley is a far better right back than he is a midfielder.
  13. Haha Brown threatening to sue us is possibly the most petty thing I've ever heard in my life! Saunders is a non-starter if you ask me, he's bound to sign David McNamee as a right back and he would need to get rid of a few centre halves before he signs any (remember they played five in one team against us?). Jennings and Gow the dury are out on I'm afraid, but we've lost better players before. Allardyce getting sacked probably strengthens our chances of keeping Blackman.
  14. Joeboy

    Dream On

    No chance! I know some on here are critical of Craigan, but even at the age of 34 he is twice the player Zander Diamond ever was or ever will be.
  15. I think Gow could go to be honest. I think he's the type of player who if you offer him £500 extra a week that would be all the incentive he'd need to move clubs. He's not one I'm overly bothered about, I think he's had some great games and some games where he's been anonymous. Whereas Blackman is concerned, I think I'd be surprised to see him either at Motherwell or Aberdeen come February 1st. I think much of his loan deal was down to Allardyce's "friendship" with Craig Brown and that could be a contributing factor. Also, unless they are planning to extend his deal, extending his loan would have no benefit to Blackburn whatsoever. If they don't offer him a new deal, I think we can expect to see him playing for a team like Doncaster or Watford come January. However, if they do extend his deal and extend his loan, I think they would certainly favour he stayed at Motherwell, considering he is settled, playing every week, scoring goals etc. I doubt Blackburn would want him to move to a team battling relegation who are losing something nil every week and not creating any chances. As for Fitzpatrick, I think he's decent backup but I wouldn't be concerned either way. I don't think he'd be the difference between a place in the league, or the difference between us getting to a cup final or not (I know he has been before before that is pointed out), and with Jennings, Lasley, Hateley and Forbes who are central midfielders and Page and Reynolds who have played there in the past, I don't think his absence would be noted. As for Reynolds, I think the club would be silly to accept an offer from another SPL club in January, unless the deal was very lucrative. As for the end of the season, although you can never fully trust what someone says in the media as we have learned, Reynolds has always said when he leaves Motherwell it will be a move that progresses his career, he is an intelligent man and I'm sure he's aware that in today's world a move to Aberdeen a backward or at best sideway step. As for Craigan, our new manager will be his ninth as a Motherwell player, I don't think it would have any bearing for him. With the likes of Jennings and Sutton I think it all depends on how Aberdeen do between now and the end of the season.
  16. Craigan isn't caretaker, Youngy is.
  17. Joeboy

    Jim Obrien

    Sounds like Sadie Burd with different words.
  18. Yeah, I can see that myself to be honest. I think Craig Brown was a big influence in him staying, due to his "friendship" with Sam Allardyce. I don't reckon we'll see Gow or Reynolds here past January either. It remains to be seen whether Gow will be a great loss, but Reynolds will be despite having cover there. It annoys me that after every manager we've lost has left a sour taste in my mouth, albeit I'm a younger fan, McLeish was in charge when I started, but if he doesn't want to be here then fuck him. We've recovered from worse. It's just annoying how two faced he has been about it. His media darling persona is obviously fake. Saying he has "a great affinity with the club" and this would be his "last job in football". I actually prefer the outlook of Mark McGhee, he was at least more honest about it. His U-Turn on yesterday's statement is actually awful. His year in charge was one of, if not my favourite year watching Motherwell, but now I must say I hold him in the same regard as the likes of McGhee, Malpas and Kampman. Ah well bring on the next manager, who if the past is anything to go by will settle in quickly, get us playing good football before something better comes along!
  19. Gow for me. With special mention to Humphrey, Hateley and Blackman. Thought Gow was really creative and inventive, perhaps the finishing touches on to the way we are playing just now, sign him up pronto.
  20. In my opinion, none of the current squad currently fit the bill for Scotland. Mark Reynolds is better than Garry Kenneth, but at the same time Weir, Berra, McManus and Webster are better than him. Steven Hammell probably should have had more caps for Scotland, but now I think you'd have to say Wallace and Whittaker, and probably even Kevin McNaughton are preferred, although I'd easily pick him before Davidson or McEveley. I think the only player in my time that truly deserved a cap that didn't get one was Martyn Corrigan. Considering at Corrigan's prime (2002-05) we saw some truely shocking right backs in the form of Maurice Ross, Robbie Stockdale etc.
  21. Is that the confirmed team Neil? Forbes being ommited is a strange one. Surely he can't be rested, it's a sad day if a twenty one year old can't play twice in a week.
  22. What a trip! At times it was a struggle, the first night particularly haha. Some of the banter and stories will never be forgotten though! The day in Denmark and Hateley's free kick made it all worth it! "What is it you wanting a Roll 'n' Corned Beef?" "Andy Roddie said to me "Fuck Motherwell, I'm a Dundee United man""
  23. Joeboy

    Spl Table

    1. Celtic 2. Rangers 3. Dundee United 4. Hibs 5. Motherwell 6. Hearts 7. St. Johnstone 8. Aberdeen 9. Hamilton Accies 10. Inverness 11. St. Mirren 12. Kilmarnock
  24. To be honest, last season I thought getting into Europe via the Fair Play League was a bit of a red neck, I like to achieve things on merit, this season was a bit more merited, but if getting in via a loophole means European nights at Fir Park rather than a "glamour" friendly against Wolves or West Brom where you could hear a pin drop, I'll take that everytime!
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