El Grew

Sportscene = amateur sh*te!

The stick dished out to Sherwin Seedorf from some on this site is ridiculously OTT and totally unwarranted. He's in a foreign country, only 21 years old and just starting out on his professional football career - today was only his 4th game for us (and he scored) and his 19th in all. Most people if they are totally honest, made a lot of mistakes at their work at that age - I know I did - but didn't have folk baying for them to be sacked. So FFS cut the young guy some slack and get behind him, encourage and support him.

They'll not be long in changing their pricing policy if the away stand lies empty.

Its highly possible this was taken at the Scottish Cup 3rd Round match from February 1961 which finished up 2-2 with us winning the replay 5-2 at Ibrox. I believe the goalie is Hastie Weir and the No.11 is Bobby Roberts.

Given Robinson's recent comments about some of the players makes me wonder whether he was responsible for bringing them to the club or they were "chosen" for him.

I am sorry to have to say it but we are now beginning to see and feel the effects of being a fan-owned club which quite simply does not have a large enough fan base to justify it. We are now quite literally being run on a shoestring. The desperately poor level of player that has been signed by the manager during the past close season are a symptom of this. He is being forced to gamble with players who, although they may have showed a modicum of skill/ability, lack the basic attributes of what is required of modern-day professional footballers in the hope that he and his coaching staff can bring them up to a decent level. While this has worked in some cases previously, there have been more sows ears than silk purses and I'm afraid that the majority of the latest crop of close season signings fall into the former category. It is I'm afraid going to be a long hard slog of a season and one in which I feel we are ill-equipped for the inevitable relegation dogfight that we will end up in with St.Mirren and the Accies.

Friday night, miserable weather, game on TV and Hearts out of form so I don't expect many to trek through from Edinburgh. Home crowd might not be very big either. Be doing well to get crowd above 4,000.

Not a surprise. Naive beyond belief. You just cannot play as open as we did today against Celtic. A much more disciplined approach was required. The goal before half-time took the wind out of our sails and we looked absolutely ragged by the end.

A point away from home is never bad. Livingston had the 4th best home record last season behind Celtic, Rangers and Kilmarnock. Don't think too many teams will leave there with 3 points.

Well fans can be hard to please. I remember when Willie Pettigrew first came into the first team and got pelters for "not knowing offside from his backside." It wasn't that. It was his style of play. He was lightning quick over 10-15 yards and liked to play right on the line of the opposition defence but lacked the experience to know when to spring forward. Mind you he wasn't long in learning.

Typical. Our luck in cup draws continues - only two SPFL teams unseeded (Hamilton & Hearts) and we pull Hearts! Winnable sure but would've been good to get an easier tie to "guarantee" a semi spot and make some money.

First 'Well team I saw - picture from 1964 season.

No sorry but thats Angus (Gus) Moffat in the background.

Certainly the calibre of opposition we've faced so far hasn't been up to much and we were expected to win BUT the point is we did and the players went about things in a professional manner. Contrast that with the results and performances just turned in by St. Mirren, Kilmarnock, Dunfermline and St. Johnstone who were also faced with opposition they were expected to beat but flopped miserably. I'm not a happy clappy nor I am getting carried away by any stretch but it does seem there is an air of positivity on the playing side at FP which can only be a good thing for the season ahead.

Well I'm shocked! The Daily Rabid and the Currant Bun stories about Robinson going to Doncaster were made-up pish. Doncaster just appointed ex-West Brom manager Darren Moore.

Big clubs signing players and then "loaning" them out (for whatever reason) isn't a new concept. When Celtic signed Kenny Dalglish, Jock Stein sent him back to Cumbernauld Utd in the Juniors for a season to "help toughen him up and learn his trade". I think that one worked out okay.

In a word; yes.

Despite the fact he was going to join Celtic I am genuinely sorry that this has happened to young David Turnbull. It must have been hell for him and his family to suffer such a disappointment and to have it reported and dragged in the media the way it was. I hope the operation is successful and that he makes a full recovery even though we will eventually have to lose him. He's only 19 so will recover quickly and with time on his side he will get his big move. I'm also glad that Motherwell stood up to Celtic in this case and let them see they were not going to be bullied or coerced by them or their sycophantic media. I'm certain David Turnbull will have the full unequivocal support of the club and us the fans and I for one wish him the speediest recovery even though as I say, we will eventually have to lose him.

Ah, another reasoned and well thought out response!

I take no pleasure in this but I said a few weeks ago that the amateurs running our club would fail to get Turnbull's true value. It looks as though Celtic are seeking to shaft us and we are bending over. Sincerely hope I'm wrong.

Spot on mate.

Just another closet Celtic fan.

I can't understand why folk are saying he wants to play on a bigger stage. He'll be playing in the same pishy league as he would've been if he stayed with us. He'll just be getting paid a lot more money for doing it. Classic reason why our league is so weak as the OF continue to hoover up any decent players from other clubs.

Your last statement may be true but there will be a damn sight fewer supporters paying to watch them.

Celtic are doing exactly what Rangers do when it comes to buying players from other Scottish clubs. They float a low-ball price via their favoured tabloid hacks to see the reaction and whether they might nick a bargain. Do to Celtic what Hibs did to them with John McGinn. However, make no mistake, Motherwell will sell Turnbull but IMO they will get nowhere near what he's really worth - the amateurs running the club will make sure of that.