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Big Higdon does what he's bloody good at - scoring goals from in and around the penalty area - a hat-trick as well. Hopefully that shat should shut the boo-boys up once and for all. McCall should always play 4-4-2 with the big man in because he can and will score goals. Well done big Higgy.

Sorry a promising young player but he's already got himself a reputation with referees now. Only 21 so if £300K has been proffered might be politic to take it.

Again hardly a shock result. The players couldn't be faulted for trying their best and putting in maximum effort but the simple fact is we were over-matched. All the trying and effort in the world can't help you when the opposition are simply man-for-man better than you. They may not be a top Spanish side but the fact is their players could all do the basics things that footballers should be able to do and did them very well. They also are very well coached and play as a team - something that we are not and very rarely do. We keep hearing IMO, a lot of absolute sh*te from our club managers after every game a Scottish team loses in Europe - "its been a good learning experience for the players" and "there were a lot of positives to take". Well, its quite obvious that the players are not learning. However I believe that its not just the players who should be learning from these experiences but the managers. They need to get much at game tactics and learning how to get their players playing as a unit as opposed to 11 individuals. There is an expression called "synergy" which means the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. This is what our managers need to begin to understand and implement. Some who post on this site will be long enough in the teeth to remember one of the club's finest results against the then mighty Spurs in the old Texaco Cup when we defeated them over two legs. Spurs then had internationalist in every position and man for man they wer far superior to us but our guys then played as a single unit, a team and were able to overcome them as a result.. Scottish teams then could do that but we seem to be unable to do it now. Well I believe its down to the managers now, like McCall, Lomas of St.Johnstone, McGlynn of Hearts and Houston of Dundee Utd to begin to prove and show that they have learned as coaches/managers from these games, put it into practice on a weekly basis and begin to prepare for the next time round in Europe.

The one bright light on an otherwise dull night for me was young Adam Cummins. Had a terrific performance and put some of his more experienced colleagues to shame. Never panicked and dealt superbly with everything that came his way. If he keeps this type of performance up then he can go right to the very top.

This was wholly expected. Quite simply we were outclassed. And lets not think its just us - any club in the SPL wouldv'e got the same. We are no better than when we were knocked out by Odense and Nancy a few seasons back. I'm not specifically singling anyone out here but both Shaun Hutchsion and Stevie Hammell (two honest hard trying players)had their obvious shortcomings well exposed tonight - they perform like this every week in the SPL so why think otherwise tonight. Without wishing to flog and old horse, quite simply Scottish football is at a shocking level - our players and managers need a complete reality check and its time their obvious shortcomings were pointed out to them and reflected in their wages.

Don't know if anyone else noticed it but BBC were live from Celtic Park last night - interviewing Murder McLeod and they were live from Tannadice tonight interviewing Peter Houston however they were not even at FP on Tuesday night never mind live!! The biggest game in Motherwell's history, the Champions League, the premier European competition and they all but ignored it. Oh but run up to their darlings at Dundee Utd for the Europa League. F*cking disgrace and yet another example of their p*ish coverage for us. IMO the club should make an official protest or consider banning the b*stards from FP. And its time their licence was pulled! :angry:

Regardless of any disgraceful attempts by the executive officers of the SFA, SPL and the SFL and all areas of the self-serving Scottish media, including so-called news media, there was no need to change any rules, have any votes, special meetings, summits or anything else of that ilk, as the rules as they stand should have been applied. These are that any football club that wishes to join the ranks of the professional (and I use the word advisedly) football clubs in Scotland (and there have been many in recent years e.g. Annan Ath; Livingston, ICT, Ross County, Elgin City, Gretna, Peterhead) the they must first apply for SFA membership, membership of the SFL and if the latter is accepted they are entered into the SFL Div.3 and if they wish to progress they must do so sloely on the basis of football merit. The Rangers newco therefore should have been no different. We have had the ridiculous and scandalous pontifications from messrs Doncaster and Regan before and after the vote to deny the Rangers newco application to join the SPL (note a vote to deny their application not to kick them out as most fo the Scottish media muppets were reporting) and IMO if the SPL clubs had anything about them at all then they would be immediately removing Doncaster from office and call for a vote of no confidence in Regan with a view to getting him out also. There behaviour before, during and after this affair has been and continues to be utterly offensive and totally reprehensible. We now have a position where the SFL clubs have been tossed the affair to deal with along with the threat (and despite denials from the parties involved, make no mistake it is a threat) that if they do not agree to Rangers newco being admitted to SFL Div.3 then an SPL2 will be set-up, entry which will be by invite only and the tap which trickles down cash from the SPL to the three SFL divisions (estimated at around £16M per annum) will be turned-off. Blatent bullying and blackmail! We keep hearing that the SPL clubs are the SPL and that the SFA is the member clubs so maybe its time all of the took ownership of both and not allow a few jumped-up petty administrators to run them. They should stand squarely and solidly with the SFL clubs and refuse to allow them be treated in this shocking manner. I'm not quite sure how this could be done but perhaps they could start by scrapping the SPL entirely and getting back under the banner of the SFL because its quite obvious the SPL has been a failure since its senseless inception. This is a crossroads moment for Scottish football and we now need the SPL club chairman to all grow a set and do the right thing.

Mate not so stupid! Footballers contracts are not worth the bog roll they are printed on. Anyway fyi any contract of employment can be re-negotiated - it happens every day. The employer issues its the affected employees with a 90-day notice of intention to change of conditions of employment. Oh aye and if you seriously believe that all of our players are worth their current wages then you are I am afraid deluded. Oh and as for moving south to get more money that's a laugh. I don't know if you noticed but the road back north is clogged with players who went south, have been found out and are returning to take what they can get. Recent examples for us Quinn, Clarkson, McFadden oh and where is Brian Kerr now?

Aye all this fan power has really thrown a spanner into the works for all the mainstream press and media - their silence in terms of judging Rangers is only matched by the racket caused by all the a*se licking and sycophantic fawning over the words of chairman murray!!!

Creative thinking!! It now looks certain that the Newco will not be playing in the SPL next year and maybe longer depending on what league they do end up in so if things are as bad as the club say then they need to reduce their expenditure asap. As players wages will undoubtedly be the biggest expenditure then all of the players need to be have their contracts re-negotiated with a view to wage cuts asap - this can be achieved via a 90-day notice. That will certainly mean players moving out as they won't accept this but if the club wants to survive then it needs to get itself into a situation where its expenditure can be comfortably met within its income excluding monies from TV and OF gates. However, IMO far too many footballers in Scotland (including some at our own club) are way overpaid in relation to their skills and abilities and its now time that footballers wages were properly matched to their actual skills and capabilities and this debacle provides all clubs with the ideal opportunity to do this. We as well as the fans at all the other clubs who are for sporting integrity and who will also be in financial difficulties over this need to decide what we want - we can't have our cake and eat it!

Regardless of the consequences (likely to be mostly financial) of the Newco being denied entry to the SPL our club must vote 'No'. We definitely will not be the only SPL club that will suffer financially as a result however what amazes me is that ours is the only club that is making noises about going into administration. If what our club has said is true about going into administration if and when the Newco is denied entry to the SPL then much as it pains me to have to say it, perhaps we do not deserve to be an SPL club at all.

If we are to believe and take serious these *rseholes of Rangers FC supporters or rather Rangers FC Trading in Adminstration / Rangers GC in Liquidation then if they are forced to apply to the SFL for entry to SFL Div.3 then by the time they play their way back to the SPL at least 50% of the clubs will have gone out of business!!! Well if that's to be believed then as well as not having a pot to piss in they won't have a league to play in!!!! The sheer audacity and bare-faced ignorance of these knuckle draggers beggars belief.

A definite No. Been a 'Well fan for yonks but have to say if our Club votes to let a newco Rangers back in to the SPL then I'm afraid I won't be going back to the 'Ark and paying my hard earned to watch us. I think people are way over estimating the effect that not having them in the SPL will have. It may be counter-intuitive but I think gates would actually go up with no Rangers and no TV deals. So I honestly hope our Club and others have the balls not to let themsleves be browbeaten, bullied and cowed here and vote to keep them out.

I heard the Dundee Utd chairman on the radio this afternoon basically re-iterating exactly what the Kilmarnock chairman said last week so the books closed on the outcome of any SPL vote!!! Incidentally the current SPL Board is made up of Ralph Topping (SPL Chairman), Neil Doncaster (SPL Chief Executive), Eric Riley (Celtic FC), Stephen Thompson (Dundee United FC), Derek Weir (Motherwell FC) and Steven Brown (St Johnstone FC) however Stephen Thomson said that he thought it was unfair that the vote should be taken only by the SPL Board but should be thrown open to all clubs to vote. Why?? So when a difficult decision comes up, those elected to the Board to make decisions on behalf of the rest want to crap out of it so they can everybody's hands in the blood. Oh and and the grapevine has is that the third club with a squeaky bum on this matter is ours.

Yes a truly great result. And what about 21 years ago - April 1991 - Us 3 V Rangers Millionaires Eleven 0. Wee Dougie does it again. Fair doused the party spirit that day as well.

Yet another fair sized support trooped down to Rugby Park and got an all too familiar result. This place has been a bit of bogey ground in the past few seasons and I for one have yet to see a winning 'Well team there. We got what we deserved - nada. Really disappointing display and worried that we still have performances like this in our locker especially at the business end of the season.

George Stevenson managed us. Wille McFadyen managed Dundee Utd. Andy Paton managed Hamilton Accies. Willie Hunter managed Queen of the South. Pat Quinn managed East Fife.

As others have posted this was a great result given the circumstances and the youngsters who stepped in are due all the praise in the world because apart from a shaky beginning they had a terrific game on this evidence have a big future. The are a credit to themselves and the youth coaching set-up at FP. These guys are the future lifeblood of the club and its great to watch them starting out on what will hopefully be successful careers. Some have mentioned Ojamaa maybe wasn't quite himself yesterday but he took an almighty thump from Considine early on (for which the referee rightly booked Considine) and hewas the subject of quite a number of hefty challenges thereafter so he maybe was feeling the effect of these as the game progressed. On the other hand he's only 21 and hasn't missed a game since he arrived and his style of play does burn up the juice so maybe he needs rested for a couple of weeks just to let him re-charge his batteries. One thing that did puzzle me yesterday,was how Considine was allowed to remain on the park - this guy's nothing but a thug - he was on a yellow card but time after time he commmitted fouls and was allowed to get away with them. Most un-Brines like as he usually loves flashing his red card. Oh and the point made by Noah Dosser about Aberdeen being a middle-of-the-road football club apart from the Alex Ferguson years was well-made - if you don't believe it just look at the records.

Well now I'm convinced there's a conspiracy against us! Ian Brines takes charge of the league game against Aberdeen! Jeez if you thought Craig Thomson is/was bad just wait until you see this b*stard at work!

Can't stand them but fair do's for over 2,000 coming all the way down on a Sunday for a game live on TV and with a screwy kick-off time. Not suret that we'd have taken as many up there if the game had been at Pitoddrie?

On yesterday's showing 3 Beanos and a packet of wine gums!

Jeez and I thought the corner that never was, was bad! How the f*ck did he get away with that! I assume UEFA will be looking at this! Grade 1 referee my arse.

The farce that resulted in a corner was down to the linesman who had a crystal clear view of it and he should be taken immediately for an eye test at the SFA's referee sponsors. That said the defending at both Aberdeen goals was schoolboy. The second was probably the worst. When the Aberdeen player skied the ball into the box it was so long in the air and yet none of our defenders bothered to mark Fallon who was under absolutely no pressure at all and all all the time in the world to see the ball and set himself for it right in the middle of our penalty box. Great goal my arse. When anyone gets as much time as that in your penalty box to do something like that then the defenders should get bull-fucked! On the whole I think the game was probably won and lost in the first half and Aberdeen certainly deserved to be ahead at that time although if Higdon scores with the penalty it may well have turned the game around right there and then. One thing that puzzles me is why McCall is starting Jamie Murphy in games. He is quite honestly a shadow of last season and was utter pish today until he got hooked. Maybe he's thinking too much about which club he wants to move to. Well on current evidence its the bench at best at FP for him. Felt sorry for Ojama and Higdon today as they both worked tirelessly without getting a lot of support. I thought Jennings had a really poor game and he and Lasley struggled from the outset and were pushed back onto our back four too often and too easily - in this respect McCall needs to start sharpening up on his tactics and learn to react far quicker when his midfield is getting overrun through being outnumbered as they were today as Aberdeen were able to have runners coming onto our back four almost at will. Another TV game and another sub-standard performance - need to keep live game TV coverage away from FP.

I am sure I read somewhere that the club finishing 2nd in the SPL gets £1.5 million while the club finishing 3rd gets £900K so 2nd spot is well worth aiming at. Everyone's assuming Rangers will win their remaining fixtures but as was evident on Saturday against Hearts and a fortnight ago against Kilmarnock that is by no means a given and we play them at FP shortly. I we could win that one..... Also if we finished 2nd we would be in line for a fair bit of cash from the Champions League excluding any gate monies etc. from games. And even if we fell at the first hurdle of the Champions League we would still go into the Europa League final qualifier for the group stages as a seeded team so more monies to be made that way too - remember if we'd beaten BK Odense we'd have gone into the group stages of the Europa League and been guaranteed a minimum of £2M for that. Anyway you cut it, if we do manage to get second in the SPL then the club stands to get a significant amount of money.

Agreed. Colleague at work is a Hibee and has been very impressed by the way Motherwell have managed this one. He was at the first game with his son and contacted the club to find out what to do about the re-played game. Club took his details and told him not to worry that they would arrange to send him vouchers nearer the time of the re-arranged game. They duly arrived last week and he is mightily impressed wit oue club - said if this had been Hibs it would have been a shambles. He has droppped an email to them thanking them. We are always quick to have a go at the club so its nice to be able to praise them too.