El Grew

That actually might be be nearer the mark than you think.

Yes, its laudable that the clubs have decided to reduce the gate price but I think this is more in fear that live TV coverage will lead to nobody actually turning up and paying to watch the match - and believe me that day is getting ever and ever closer. If this game had been on a Saturday with a 3pm KO I would be going but as its on a Sunday with a 1.15pm KO and its live on TV I won't be going. IMO the SPL needs to tell the TV folk to gtf, stop live TV coverage all together and start working at getting the fans back into grounds again to watch games.

Ouch x 6! In any season taking points from the OF are a bonus and we certainly don't bank on getting any away from home and tankings are always more likely than not. Having said that, we set-up today with 4-5-1 which probably meant we had 9 players behind the ball for most of the game ("official stats" show we only had 35% possession) and with that formation I would not expect to win BUT similarly I would not expect to ship 6 goals. Players have to have good mental strength and constituional fortitude when playing the OF and I'm afraid our lot (and not just today as we shipped 4 in our previous visit to Ibrox) have shown far too often that they are sadly lacking in this, sometimes against others in the SPL. I think judgment on McCall really has to wait until we see how 'his team' performs next season. However I'm sure he has already worked out who he can rely on and who he can't so I fully expect to see a number of the current squad being moved out and replaced.

I don't know if anyone else agrees with me but IMO John Sutton is the best professional footballer at our club and a shining example to everyone at the club and to any youngsters. You never see or hear anything bad about him on or off the field. He never complains whether he's playing in poisition, out of position or on the bench. When he plays he always gives 100% shirks nothing and plays for the jersey. He Added to this is his goals tally some of which have proved to be vital. Just look how much it meant to him yesterday to get the second goal in a (with the greatest respect to Stranraer) cold, miserable, rain-soaked Scottish 3rd division backwater. . I just hope that the club can convince John that his future is with us.

Actually Findlay its 60/40 home team. But you miss my point we have made the square root of f*ck all as the aggregate gates of all these games won't add-up to much.

Very poor performance and few pass marks. Fair dos to Stranraer they played very well and with a wee bit of composure and luck might have nicked a goal which would certainly have made things interesting. Nice to see the ground improvements from the last time I was down there - auld garden shed selling the pies now replaced with a proper 'kiosk' Oh and I think they'd taken the flymo to tidy-up the terracing.

Another away draw?!! FFS we must be one of the unluckiest teams in cup competition draws. So far this season, 5 draws in the two cup comps = 1 home tie (Dundee Utd in CIS). Brechin away; Dundee Away; Stranraer away; Dundee Utd away. So barring an replay, if we are to get to a semi we will need to to do so without a home tie. It looks as though the club (yet again) won't make much money from the cup comps.

Game live on BBC. Ticket price = £20. Hassle getting in and out of Hampden. Too close to the blue nose neanderthals. Likely to get pumped. Stay home, have a few brews in comfort, watch on TV. Sorry but I just can't get excited about this game.

Seen the highlights. Penalty award was of the soft variety but tehnically correct. Craigan jumped into Duberry and had a hand on his chest; referee about 15 feet away with clear view. No complaint. Craigan = bombscare = get shot. Move Saunders to centre-back to partner Hutchison and bring in Page at right back/move Hately to right back. We are not going to win any of the two cups, we are not going to get relegated and I think the best we will finish in the SPL is 8th so we might as well make the changes now and get them bedded-in for next season.

I believe that this is correct. I also remember that it used to be taken down aabout 10-15 minutes before the end of a game so you knew how long there was to go then. First time I saw this I think it was big Peter McCloy's brother that used to take it down.

Im proud to say that I refused to go and see us when that clown was in charge!

I can't honestly blame Mark Reynolds for wanting to move on. His performances did dip quite a bit during the past couple of seasons but I think that was more down to him playing beside a couple of right wallies in Graham Smith and Stephen Craigan. I believe his original position prior to coming into the first team was left back and he was only originally supposed to be a fill-in as left centre back. Although he filled the position really well and always played for the jersey I really don't think he was comfortable playing there. With his pace and passing ability I always felt he would have been better at left back or even left midfield - I think Jim Gannon felt this too as he did start him at left back a few times with a fair bit of succcess. S.Wednesday are a big club and although (like a few others) lost their way a couple seasons back I think they will get at least get back to the Championship level. Mark is only 22 so this might be the first move up to bigger and better things as he will get noticed. All the very best Mark and good luck for your future career.

To be absolutely fair I don't really think the game should have been allowed to go on as the wind, rain and underfoot conditions made trying to play football a bit of a lottery. Some credit has to go to both sets of players for actually managing to play something resembling a football match. Hutchison was a big plus point and if he can keep himself free of injury then he can be a big player for us. I thought that Forbes should not have started the game today given the conditions and his lack of speed and stamina but could have bee used as a sub for later in the game. Big Randolph certainly earned his pay packet (again) and I hope we can hang onto him.

The longer the delay does anyone else think there is a possibility that Leitch is coming back in?

Please excuse me if I missed it somewhere along the way but has Stuart McCall appointed an assistant yet?

We have a very thin squad which on current evidence looks as though it may stay that way for the remainder of the season. We have no money for transfers or for improving wages and again that's not something that's likely to be changing anytime in the future. People need to face the plain simple truth - we have too many players that turn in a good performance once in a while but then it turns into a guessing game as to when they are likely to repeat it. Its no good screaming and yelling at them for not being any good because they are what they are for better for worse. Thats why they are plying their trade in the SPL with us. Other SPL teams suffer from the same problem - that's why there is no real form in the SPL (outwith maybe Rangers, Celtic and Hearts) because it depends very much on which players in which teams have a good game.

Just hope we will all be just as pleased the game went ahead afterwards!

Have rarely missed our annual away tie in the Cup, but current form, journey time, costs, Sunday, early kick-off, live on TV = Stay home.

Yes he has been a good and loyal club servant but lets be honest he's been on the wane for the past couple of seasons. I was a fan of Jim Gannon not least for his having the knowledge and guts to tell certain 'first team certain picks' that they would not do. Craigan was one. IMO Gannon was spot on.

This may well have been posted on here previously but I was just looking forward to the Scottish Cup on Saturday and our now annual away tie in the first round (for the big clubs ) This year's outing is to Dens Park, Dundee where our last Scottish Cup visit ended in an abject 2-0 surrender at the same stage in February 1988. From memory, I think we were 2-0 down at half-time and never in the game at any time. It was a long journey back. Its interesting to note that since we beat them in the Scottish Cup Final in 1952 we've not beaten them in the Scottish Cup since.

Thanks pettywulliegrew. I said this without checking however having just checked the site it seems to confirms what I said - on current form we are 11th out of 12.

Whilst I appreciate the feelings and sentiment expressed on this topic, we must be honest with ourselves about it. We are just going to have to resign ourselves to playing at FP for some considerable time and perhaps with some sections of the ground closed off for spectator access.

I did.

We've probably just about done enough to ensure we won't end up in the drop zone this season, but, if our current form continues it might be damned close. Probably lose to Dundee in the cup, miss Europe and finish 10th. I think one of the minus points about a new manager coming in at this stage of the season is that it is extremely unlikely that there will be any new faces coming in during the January transfer window as the new manager will need to take time to assess the playing resources he has inherited and decide who he likes, dislikes etc.

How you could pick anyone from this debacle as MOTM is beyond me.