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Who are a tier above where most of our players come from.

Certainly did; but they got closer to the cross balls than our defence did.......

Also to add for those who would like to disagree; 63 goals lost in last two seasons. 3rd worst defence last year; 2nd worst the year before. This is an area requiring forward progression. McManus is not forward progression.

Well we've had five positives for McManus staying, I am all for positivity but I'm really disappointed in this news. I really believe that McManus will rapidly decline in forthcoming years due to lack of pace. I expected also more from him as a leader; we lose a lot of goals and so I don't see this as a positive step. It's a lazy - stick with what we have step. Either someone new or Laing or Kennedy to progress. From previous posts you can tell I'm not a Hall fan either. I would personally be investing in a new recruit in this area.

Ok tin hat on, I think Ben Hall is very poor and at this stage shouldn't be in our first team. If we are looking for raw ability in this position I think we should be playing Laing. It doesn't seem to be allowed though to say a young player isn't good enough but he isn't from what I've seen.

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Stick on draw then

1. Celtic 2. Hearts 3. Aberdeen 4. Dundee United 5. Motherwell 6. Inverness 7. Dundee 8. Kilmarnock 9. St Johnstone 10. Hamilton 11. Partick 12. Ross County

Understand what was said re Hollis v Neilson but for me he was far too flappy, (remember the game v St Johnstone?). Even in his 'good' games on Youtube for the Faroe Islands he gets away with absolute murder! Glad he's gone but wish him nothing but the best. It won't come back to haunt us this time.

I can't think of anything funny here, I'll ask my father......gie us a Honda?

Aye he's coming back. In Blue and White.

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I get what you mean about having 5 players fighting for the jersey but none of them are good enough. If we want to avoid relegation we need better defenders, is he worth a punt in this case - definitely. He's pretty solid and we lose a lot of goals from this area from free crosses. Get the other RB's barring Ferguson(who is a left back anyway) away to feck in the summer or sooner. We may get lucky here and get a 1 in and 1 out scenario in this window. Similar to Gunnar hopefully.

Firing a Motherwell player from a cannon. I hope you don't have a target in mind because it will surely miss.

He is not good at what he does. A Lasley/carswell midfield is horrifically bad and the cause of a lot of our problems . Whoever said Marc Fitzpatrick by another name was spot on. I think he could have been developed into a decent midfielder but I actually think the coaching staff have not tried to adapt him into an up and down midfielder which due to his athleticism he might have stood a chance. From what i've seen I fancy leitch much more with the signing of a proper midfielder who actuallys breaks up the play and dictates.

At least Stevenson is a midfielder unlike Ramsden, Reid, Law, Kerr and every other defender we have on our books that we play in this position. A midfielder that scores a double to take his team through to the Scottish Cup....? A midfielder that looks as if he might give a toss and not be as weak as our lot...? I ain't saying he's great but he's a damn site better than our central midfield options.

1 - 3 - be delighted if I am wrong though. I'd run with Twardzik Ramsden McManus O'Brien Reid Ainsworth Lasley Carswell Vigurs Sutton Ojamma Presuming Hammell is out - the lack of options is horrendous and despite my cries to see Thomas and Erwin - I would say not for Saturday. Good luck to the team though and hope they prove me wrong.

I think that a point raised on many occasions is why we have lost 1million in three years. We know why as it has been explained but I do not believe we should accept this as good business practice. Ultimately it sounds as if we depend on a list of criteria (cup runs/europe/high table finishes) in preparation of our budget. Many accountants will say to base budgets on a worst case scenario. Therefore everything else is a bonus and would lead to profitability. Also it has been indicated before we need to sell one player a season. This is where budgets come onto a football pitch and it's clear we have not primed any individual footballer as far as I can see that will allow this to happen. We cannot sell and gain any value in Reid, Ramsden, McManus, Hammell, Lasley and Sutton due to age. Ojammaa is not our player. Ainsworth is on a one year deal. So what happens on the park will not allow us to generate extra income in this way. I notice we quoted Anne Budge regarding confidentiality agreements. Interesting quote today Budge says the financial models run by clubs in the past are not sustainable. "There is a fundamental business rule that says you shouldn't be spending more than you bring in - it's not rocket science," she added.

I don't trust the opinions of our management and coaching team this year. Self-evident.

In terms of corporate packages I am really disappointed nothing is available in the Davie cooper stand anymore. This was great for myself and my young family inclusive of one year old to avoid the shite weather, good having the bar inside with my dad and also none of that tie nonsense.

From what I have seen and despite the gulf in appearances I would prefer Leitch to Carswell in the starting eleven.

I don't buy any of this record defeat nonsense. Won't happen despite yesterdays shambles. 0-1, 0-2 or 1-2 is much more realistic.

Again like many others best left until today till I posted my words. The first thing for me was when I heard the team I was disappointed in the announcement for the second week in a row of Carswell, Lawson and Lasley as a midfield trio with Angol. Lawson/Carswell pick one, we don't need two....that in itself is playing not to concede and we don't need to show Aberdeen this level of respect at home. That midfield will never work. There are too many people on this forum who will not slate Carswell because he is young or Lasley as he has been a stalwart of the club, but I thought last night both of them never got to grips with the game and Flood, who will never be my cup of tea as an individual, I would have swapped in a heartbeat last night. Lawson too many sideways passes, and too slow. This is fine in the right system but with Lasley and Carswell give us peace. Francis-Angol, I would love to ask Stuart McCall if he is under instruction to not give the ball away in the first half of a game. This may be part of McCall's containment plan but was the same against Kuban where he didn't try and beat a man till second half. I thought contrary to everyone else Ainsworth was alright when he came on, and Angol was ok second half let's be honest at least they created something. Next of all Vigurs is a quality player. McFadden is one of the best talents Scotland has produced in a long time. Yet they have been poor at the start of the season. This is down to not incorporating them into the team to utilise their talents in the best way. This is multiplied by the inability to play wing backs who provide support to these guys. It's a mess simply because we have played circa 15 games and we don't know what we are doing. There is no quick fix, but simply a suggestion below of how this could be done. Hollis/Neilson Wing Back - (I feel a bit sorry for Ramsden who has actually done ok, but it's a system we need) Hutchinson McManus Wing Back (not Angol) Def Midfielder - Lawson & Lasley Att Midfielder - Vigurs McFadden - can drift Anier - can drift Sutton For me attacking wing backs could provide the foil, if we have 2 defensive midfielders, I dunno, but it ain't working and some big decisions need made. I've probably contradicted myself here but it's the system that McCall has that is wrong, and he needs to fix it.

Obviously in league cup ties we will as all SPL teams seem to do make some changes. So I'd go for McFadden for Sutton - To see if McFadden/Anier can work Lawson for Carswell - Game time Neilsen for Holiis - Game time Ainsworth for Vigurs - Game time, plus Vigurs not done much so far. Thoughts and what changes would you guys make as we know its inevitable! (Wouldn't be surprised to see McHugh playing tomorrow)

If we were starting our summer transfer spree definitely, but not with the players we have signed.