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I sent in some comments that I've been saying for a long time. To which I got I got a reply asking about volunteer work. So first of all through business and 3 kids etc, I have no time for that. I would like the WS to address the points I have raised though. Sending out a weekly newsletter is far from good enough in 2024. https://www.foundationofhearts.org/ Cracking site with login facilities and we should be at the same level as this irrespective of supporters numbers. Why do we not have the same or aim towards the same? Could we not appeal to the support perhaps we have some cracking web developers that could take this on? To generate more monies to the WS you just can't stand outside with a bucket and send a weekly mailchimp.

Got to laugh. People want the manager to quit at half time. Beat Rangers at Ibrox, what a few weeks ago? Eighth in the league, budget lowered, safe as houses soon. God help us if were losing 1-0 at half time against Hibs on Saturday. Morons can't even wait until full time anymore. Probably the same tadgers that get bored half way through a 10 second clip on Instagram.

I'd cheer the team spirit of GrizzlyG Always positive throughout the season and I hope the team give him the just rewards on Saturday. Terrible stand up comedian though....

I'm afraid that the WS has a bowling club mentality. I once invested in a bowling club so I'm certain I know what a bowling club mentality is like.

https://blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/107017/brian-caldwell

Cheers pal, I like a balanced viewpoint where I think P and B will suit me There are certainly things wrong with the club. No escaping that. But to deal with people who can only see black is like speaking to a Tory about the qualities of say SNP or labour or vice versa. Completely deaf. take care and all the best David

Well this is my last post on this site. Off to P and B to chat to people with similar thoughts. Would the miserable bastards on this site do us a favour and not follow suit. You can stay here and hate the world. I know plenty of people in the world like the people above and never stood about long enough to listen to their bile. See you in the Spl next season. I’ll spot you because your pants will be wringing and Kettlewell will have taken a shite on your doorstep. Catch the good guys later. Keep up the faith.

What makes you say StJ and Ross County have better? St J signed a striker that plays semi professional football

Whilst the continued debate goes on about Vale. Who will probably end up our 3rd striker. I think Nicholson will prove to be a good signing. Montgomery would have been as well.

Don't rub it in 😢

It's a shame about Montgomery. For me he was a good signing.

The P and L which is a loss of 1 million pounds includes this cost. Funded by a balance sheet item of a loan. You and I can go into politic speak about describing the same thing in two different ways. I do understand what you are saying. What I will say is the cost up front is probably set off against losses that would be incurred by paying to maintain the fully grass pitch over time. ie a P and L hit now for the greater good, as you say funded by the government but in time repayable. What is more concerning is that wages matched turnover because "we done well" as per Jim McMahons comments. Some finance model that. As I say again that's why we are pinching the pennies.

That my friend is still a loss in the p and l funded by long term debt. Still lost a million quid whether they borrowed it from the government or borrowed it from Taylor Swift.

Ok Killie Accounts! Due the same day as Motherwell this month. They lost 1.8 million in the season they won the D1 title. Running a wage bill of 3million. Still pretty hefty. Have a high list of creditors and borrowed 1 million from Scottish government. More difficult to decipher until later this month and the accounts of the return to the SPL. My gut is if Billy Bowie wants something then he will put the money in.

Half and Half I'd say this and salaries. Although one year out in comparison - later this month we can compare like for like. Turnover : 5.5 MILLION (St Mirren had same) WAGES: 5.2 MILLION (St Mirren 3.8) Other OPERATING EXPENSES: 2.1 MILLION (this is where the pitch comes into play - and savings here would have cut the million loss)

Again your not wrong but as I've guessed at earlier I think accounts are going to be grim reading for last season. So I think the board will not budge and do this two years in a row to save our season.

Correct look at the correlation of the league table. The bottom four are in exact order, the bottom four. https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/scottish-premiership/attendances

That's correct. You are right. I think what we can take away is they spent 1.4 million less than us in salaries. We lost a million, they broke even and just wait until we publish 2023 in line with them. 2 manager sackings and panic buys to stay in the league. That for me is why they are stronger just now and we are tightening up the purse strings. The board cant lose 7 figures two years in a row of "our money" in some ways. So get used to our new tighter squad whilst we work towards Break Even.

St Mirren also have loans due of 1.8 million. They publish a very detailed set of accounts. Last season they very much held their own on the P and L, and had 1.3 million in the bank. Although 1 year behind, Motherwells accounts showed 1.4 million overspend on St Mirren on staff wages with the SAME TURNOVER leading to a 1million Loss - new accounts will be filed this month.

25 to 50% of St Mirren are owned by Kibble Education and Care Centre with a turnover of £41 million pounds.

Rolling out that phrase again........snide as feck.

Google says. What is Jack Vale doing now? He is now producing (and starring in) several dramatic and comedic films in the family and faith-based genres. Fir Park sounds ideal.

I don't think we are far off at all from my post after that one. 4 of them are contracted along with Paton and Blaney BUT I missed someone so we are up to 8 including Halliday......Ross Tierney

Good info and shows the differentiation.

But isn't he really really comparable (certainly in my mind) and in goals per game as ollie shaw?