mjw

It was nice of the stewards to let them stand the whole game but they were a credit to their team and i don't remember shaking hands with any other supporters on the way up the road.

Going by the figures mentioned in a previous post that could be as many as 6-7000 tickets tied up before the patg punters get a look in.One book-one ticket as an st holder could hand the second ticket to someone who never goes to fir park leaving regular punters strugging for a ticket.

If traffic light sees that you are going to be on here all night

What if you have a st holder who didn't make either of the first games, why do they get preferential treatment over patg punters who went to both.

It gets the holder in every home match which is all it is supposed to do,no justification for the pay at the gate punter having to fall in behind st holders for a game that a st doesn't even cover.If we go with attendance at the previous rounds does that include anyone who didn't happen to hold on to their stubs as this has never been mentioned until now.

Is it on radio? i'm stuck backshift

The 5% ticket fee showed how fractured the game is with some clubs bending over and accepting it, with others humming and hawing before taking it when the 10 clubs should have told the old firm to GTF.Rangers are on there knees and an early exit from europe will hit celtic hard so this is the perfect time to stand up to them.I applaud leeann and flow using the media to put motherwell's point across but does all this talking go on at SPL meetings or is that just another old boys club like the SFA.

Ok you win Scottish football is brilliant, i mean if we get more fans than Ireland where the GAA is the predominant sporting body and Russia,Poland,portugal and Ukraine who are well behind us in living standards then we have nothing to worry about.

Most of us can remember the ill-fated attempt to make us the third force in Scottish football and that it nearly put our club out the game altogether, so for anyone to say we don't understand the financial reality at fir park is frankly insulting.No one is seriously suggesting we follow Rangers or Hearts into financial meltdown, but the time is coming when big decisions will have to be made.Will we be able to continue when the only punters going through the gate are season tcket holders who have already paid and the cash flow of money through pay at the gate dries up?

When i decide on saturday morning if i can be bothered going to the match and then i get there and can't wait for 4.45 to get away home again, then that suggests i aint enjoying my football anymore. granted the embarrasment we have had for a pitch the last couple of years plays apart in that but the fact that those old firm teams(possibly the worst ever)are still streets ahead of the rest should have everyone else hanging their heads.

Criminal we don't have this as closures and redundancy are hardly new to this area,if we don't attract unemployed fans at the moment then having a reduced gate would bring more people and could actually make some extra money.

Motherwell feature in 6(approx) games a season on tv so that can't be the only reason,i can't believe if you askd people they would say 'can't be arsed'rather than 'can't afford it'. The youngsters you talk about are bullied and harrassed for 90 minutes for simply enjoying themselves as part of the bigger campaign by the police/stewards to remove the fun from the game,why are youngsters going to pay in to a game only to get flung out again for standing/singing.

I would rather look at it as value for money and in my opinion we don't get that,some people seem to think a couple of wins in july over part timers and then easily beaten by a Nancy or Steaua constitutes success, in my (humble) opinion it papers over the cracks of our bread and butter league season being a bore.

Is it moaning though or can i not be concerned about the future of a club that has been a massive part of my life since my old man lifted me over the turnstyle 30+years ago.I applaud all those who think everything is rosy but i make no apologies for how i feel,we are the fifth best of a bad lot in the SPL and our game(club and inernational) is dire.If people are happy to lay the blame at the door of the scottish media and absolve the govening bodies and clubs of any blame then the ball is well and truly burst.

So we just carry on regardless, shit product in a shit stadium, new strips every season,extortionate catering prices, Motherwell fans sitting in the house on a saturday because we don't really care if they can't afford it-thats their tough luck,so much for the family/community club.When the cuts that are coming from this new government start biting in, going to watch Motherwell will be a luxury that very few will be able to afford. where will be in 5-10 years or is it enough to just get by.

Apart from Hibs i can't think of an SPL club that could be classed as well run, any other type of business that ran up debts similar to Rangers Kilmarnock Aberdeen etc would be out the game.The words halving and slashing keep getting used about gate prices, i don't believe we need to go to those extremes, the three quid difference i mentioned previously is surely not going to put us in dire straits.

If you were unemployed you would probably shop around for the cheaper sandwich/petrol/paper but football fans are screwed over because of the loyalty they have for their club.The last two home games were only slightly cheaper but saw slight increases in attendances for some people just saving three pound is incentive enough to go to the match.As for motherwell being a business,the comany i work for made 100 people redundant and have refused to even discuss a wage rise for the past two years but football clubs seem to immune from all of this.

Doubling the attendance?We are going to struggle to get 5000 and we seem willing to price people out of going to matches by sticking to the 'thats the price like it or lump it' line.We hear the word loyalty a lot in football,where is the loyalty to fans who may have fallen on bad times or are we happy to turn our back on people because the £40+ monthly outlay is a luxury they can't afford/justify?

"theres a financial reality out there that fans don't want to listen too" unemployment sky high and wage freezes everywhere and we are still expected to find £18-22 to watch sub standard entertainment,its the people running our game who don't seem able to face reality

It doesn't seem to be too expensive to stop people using it,watching a match now is like a big game of stand up sit down. I missed the goal on thursday because of some twat who was up and down like a brides nightie all game.

I hope it stays like that for us, i would hate to get blase about it the way some of the big clubs fans seem to be

The first day of the battle cost 60,000 casualties,that includes dead, injured and missing there was not the capability for that kind of destruction in 1916.This was a thread for people to remember/honour the battle of the Somme if you want a discussion on the rights and wrongs why not open a thread of your own instead of hijacking this one.

See if other players are languishing in the reserves down south surely they would be more interested in coming up here on loan when they see how it has benefitted John Ruddy this may be something we can take advantage of

That sounds like a new mob