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Nah, prob at the expense of Quinn who is away to Russia..

Think that's only because we sold JP to Plymouth for £250k. And it made sense to sell on someone nearing the end of their contract, and sign a more than adequate, younger replacement and pocket still £140k profit.

Everywhere it seems have claimed it to be 5. But, Crocker claimed that it was 6 booked for Hibs, just prior to Riordan getting booked in the last minute for kicking the ball away. So, if he was originally right then it would indeed be 7 carded. Either way, I am sure the SFA/SPL issue fines for clubs that receive 5+ bookings in a match. So, either way this would ensure harm to their Fair Play bid.

I don't understand this tbh. I mean we would have been delighted if we had grabbed the 4th spot that we were aiming for all season. Which ultimately would have got us in the Europa league on footballing merit. We wouldn't be moaning, and complaining of ruining our 09/10 SPL season. Well the round we enter the 2nd leg is only a WEEK earlier than the 1st leg we would have entered had we finished 4th. Don't really see THAT much difference. Surely United will be in exactly the same boat if they end up in 4th. It's not like other seasons when the Intertoto was complete before the UEFA Cup started. Due to this revamp, there is a game every week. So, teams aren't losing out so much at the start. It's over the long run for the teams that end up in the QF's, SF's due to the sheer amount of games they now need to play. Not necessarily when they start.

Well not the best of starts to his 'Well career, if we were to criticise Fraser, as currently it seems he could and probably will be our number 1 next season. In saying that, not like us 'Well fans to hold back from criticising our own players

Both teams picked up 2 each.

You could establish exactly who they were from the sound of their voice transmitted through a radio?

Yass! Interesting to note a crowd of 2818 tonight. Obviously due to fuck all to play for and ICT understandably poor away support. But, must be one of the lowest at FP in a long time.

Another one for Shuggy Murray for Midden. So that will be 2-0 on bookings between us and Midden tonight.

Well according to the papers, Hibs are one of our nearest challengers. Hearts on the other hand, are NO challengers whatsoever as they will clinch the Europa place through league position anyway. But, it may not have been the Hibs fans that encroached onto the pitch and therefore won't be penalised for that offence. But, surely Riordan's antic's directed towards the Hearts fans. The mere provocation of his celebration, was the fact of the Hearts fans entering the pitch. So, surely Riordan's "celebration" could perhaps affect Hibs points scoring in the table. Either way still maintain St Midden are our only real competitors. And with Mason being booked in the 1st half. It's another card to add to our cushion.

Keeping an eye on the bookings in the other game as well. Another 45mins from us without picking up a booking. And with Gary Mason being booked for the Midden then we have another card safety barrier (albeit the ultimate decision not all judged on bookings but certainly a major factor).

Almost always comes up whenever a team lose their manager. But, we always worry with McGhee's allegiance to Aberdeen that if Calderwood were to leave, would he return? Well with his history with Reading, any chance that a return to the Madejski could be on the cards, with Coppell's resignation?

True, true. We don't just have the one remember... we have two! Not to forget Craggs silencing Rooney & Co at Windsor Park one memorable Wednesday night..

Getting ahead of myself at the moment. But, if we do happen to clinch this 6th European place. The potential list of already qualified teams for the 1st Qualifying Round are: Derry City - Rep of Ireland Sligo Rovers - Rep of Ireland Helsingborg - Sweden NSI Runavik - Faroe Islands Torshavn - Faroe Islands Ararat Yerevan - Armenia Gandzasar Kapan - Armenia Irtysh - Kazakhstan Kaisar - Kazakhstan Keflavik - Iceland Fram - Iceland Anorthosis Famagusta - Cyprus Linfield - Northern Ireland Crusaders - Northern Ireland FC Lahti - Finland Dinamo Minsk - Belarus MTZ Ripo - Belarus Juvenus - San Marino Dinaburg - Latvia Llanelli - Wales T.N.S - Wales FK Vetra - Lithuania Flora - Estonia Trans - Estonia

Aye, but they are fighting for their life on Sat and the remaining 3 games afterwards. They can't afford to be stepping out of challenges and 50/50s. Pressure of relegation makes players do silly things. We on the other hand can just do a Man City and help up losing 8-1 by not being committed. Not that I think we should do it, least that is an option to us that isn't available to St Midden.

A rendition of "We're All Going On a European Tour" will be welcome at New Love Street, great way to get it right up the bitter Buddie bastards, as "The Cheats" as they like to refer to us qualify for Europe for a 2nd season running (albeit through the backdoor).

Well due to Scotland and their dismal showing in this years competitions, at least it's been unable to affect our placing. So, we compare this to fellow similar nations like Poland, Romania, Serbia & Co, they as well have had no other representatives late on in both European Competitions. So, all are unable to climb above us into the top 3. Whereas all the bigger nations have done themselves no favours.. England - Fletcher's red card, Chelsea's negative play going against the "positive play" that UEFA set out. The indiscipline from Drogba + Ballack. Spain - Abidal sent off, as was Godin for Villarreal at the Emirates in Quater Finals. Italy - Juventus were down to 10men in there game against Chelsea in Turin. So, the major nations harming their chances and the lesser footballing nations not getting teams to the latter stages, apart from perhaps the Ukraine. Combined with the fact the National team picked up zero bookings in the Amsterdam Arena. Looking good anyway..

Of course not, mainly due to our inability to "turn up" for these type of crucial matches (bar Sheep at home last season amongst a select few). The Malpas debacle against St Midden was bad enough to cope with and that was with a game to spare, with our fate in our own hands, not quite sure if I could cope with a one-game - winner-takes-all scenario in our last game. But, on the other hand, to have the opportunity to send Killie down. Could be a thought too good to resist..

Not that there any realistic chance of us going down, only mathematically are we still unsafe. But, talking of goal difference being disgarded. You reckon Cardiff fans thought they're goal difference was too good to lose them a Playoff place. A 6-0 defeat to Preston turned that round. A complete 12 goal swing between the two sides. Not to mention boost the others Goals Scored column. And as a result we all know that Cardiff lost out, not on points, not on goal difference but on the goals scored. Which is mainly due to that 6-0 hammering. Stranger things have happened in football..

1-0 either way. Similar to the cup game, whoever can take the golden chance that comes their way will win it. Not many goals in the game I reckon. Hopefully we seek revenge for our no-show in the Top 6 decider.

Are you sure? As remember, last season, Richard Dunne was sent off early in Man City's last fixture of the season. And they weren't sure whether that affected their Fair Play standing, and almost allowed the then nearly relegated Fulham to take the place. That is why Man City sat back and refused to tackle for the rest of the game and ultimately lost 8-1.

Anyone know when the final results shall be published, with any potential games that can be included must be completed as of today. So, therefore with the table being unable to change, when shall they be publishing it?

Surely Scotland would have to drop out. We are currently occupying the last vacancy as of January. Well due to no Scottish team participating in European competition after Xmas, and the National side only comepeting against the Dutch. Then surely we would have no scope as a Nation to pick up any more points. Same can be said for Norway, but the Danes would have Aalborg and Copenhagen (both knocked out by Man City) to continue their co-efficient after Xmas. So surely bigger Nations like Italy, Spain, England, France, Germany etc due to playing more games would be able to achieve a better overall score and knock us off 3rd place. Hope I am wrong and we will have a trip to the Faroes, Finland, Belarus, Montenegro etc in early July.

Re: Dobbie Barrowman at ICT is a perfect example of someone that can score barrel loads of goals in the lower leagues and then be totally found out at SPL level. Even Deuchar (albeit slightly better rate than Barrowman), he broke pretty much every record on his way through with Gretna, and can't score in a brothel in the SPL. Even Martin Grechan, whom McGhee rated as not good enough and allowed him to move to Stirling permanently, has a very good record in the 2nd Division, and is clearly not SPL standard. For every Swanson, Gomis, Cowie, Rankin there are plenty who make the step up only to find themselves totally out their depth. And both Barrowman (Killie) and Dobbie (Hibs) were both let go from SPL clubs, as both deemed not good enough only to make it in the lower leagues. There careers are following a similar pattern. Fair enough Dobbie may be good enough, and be a gem of a signing. But, quite a risky one at that. And we can't afford to pin our faith on a guy that's only proven at lower league level. And with Queens move into Professional status, they could be in a better position financially to be able to hold out for a fee, that in all likelihood we couldn't afford (especially a risky capture at that). If we are spending money, we need to make sure it's gonna work out for both parties e.g Porter (wages, rather than transfer fee in this case).

Just in time to welcome QoS, Airdrie and Ross County's vast away supports next season..