john_M_F_C

There's been no suggestions around how to gain support for a repeal of the OBFA, and the wider issue of fan treatment.

Can you point to the singing of any offensive sectarian songs sang at Fir Park this season, by the 'Well Bois? the "rules" were brought in to tackle sectarian abuse. As it stands it's to tackle anything offensive, which again, there's not been anything offensive from the 'Well Bois. There's been individual incidents where individual Motherwell fans have acted in a way that might incite disorder, part of the act, but on the whole, the "rules" have been adhered to by those trying to change it. The problem here doesn't lie with the 'Bois, it's with the "holier than thou" folk, who seem incapable of a better solution to change things yet feel the need to call everybody else's "childlike".

As much as people want to blame Ripley, you play a back 4 there, everybody knows where they should be positioned, the boy doesn't find the space, and doesn't get the shot away with in the first place.

Mcghee sat down at the dugout after the goal sums things up for me, no passion, no desire. Time for him to go.

Ridiculous thread, Alan Burrows does works hard for the club, doing the day to day running. The big decisions seem to be made by this les character, and the board.

Yes, and no. They've essentially been told to make sure it doesn't happen again. The likelihood is that the situation won't happen again. Token gesture really.

Just so everybody is clear, we haven't been punished here.

well, it didn't answer anything, did it? Naive? because it's not the most popular answer? Good because they're of a similar opinion to yours? It's a shame that most of the talk on here's been about our choice to jointly protest on a fan issue, with a similar fan group, not the issue itself. There's been pages worth about it, yet, there was next to nothing noted when we staged our own protest against Partick Thistle. I get that people are annoyed we'd work with the Green Brigade, but nobody even took notice when we tried to do it on our own. It's maybe easy to suggest now, but, if our support wasn't happy about us working with outsiders, then perhaps it would be beneficial for us all, that we do get behind fan issues more, as a wider support?

Can't come back on content, boils it down to a self righteous comment about age... Come back to me on the offensive behaviour at football act.

Because of intolerance. Personally I wouldn't want people supporting an extremist islamic group to get the jail either. You don't change peoples views, no matter how repulsive they are, by making them illegal. It pushes them further underground, and further entrenches people. The green brigade's views are going to be repulsive to some, I fully understand that, but we can't let a political class dictate what is right or wrong. or in the case of the bill, where you can be more wrong, that's verging on the totalitarian groups like al Quieda and ISIS. You're wrong on the count that the bill is getting people arrested for things that are already illegal, but certainly convictions for it have all been for things that were already illegal. You're right on the burden of proof though, it makes it very easy to get arrested now, as the police only need to say that your actions may have offended any right minded person, or that they could have caused disorder, even if measures were in place to prevent disorder. That isn't right. The bill helps perpetuate the notion that we, as football fans, are all working class yobs, that drink, fight and offend, as we all know, that's far from the truth. It suits a political agenda that makes football fans look loutish, and it suits the police to collect extra money to make us look like apes. It doesn't matter what else we as Motherwell fans stand for, we should be standing against this act of parliament.

Why would you want folk to get the jail for singing songs?

Without wanting to defend the green brigade, I'm very glad we don't get the treatment they get. The level of policing they get is mental, all for singing songs that some folk don't agree with.

Obviously calling folk bed wetters was a bit much, purely out of frustration. It is fairly frustrating, the point of Saturday was to raise eyebrows, and make people see that this issue was big enough for two opposing groups to put their own differences aside for a couple of minutes.

The point I was making is, that with so few people agreeing with anything they stand for, they all seem to have a fair idea of what they're all about, seems to be a lot of empathy with people that seem to be ideologically opposed to a lot of posters on here. Most of the folk in the section can't be bothered with this site, rightly so, full of bed wetters.

Weird that everybody has an insight into the Green Brigade's motivation, yet seem to find them utterly repulsive, what's going on there? bit odd.