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Can't run, can't jump, what can he do?

That's what I said.

Unfortunately 2nd means we enter Europe at the 'get humped' stage, unless Hibs win the cup

Less if Ross County take any points at the weekend

Doubt it.

What would the format of a 16 team league be? 15 teams home and away then a split and playing the 7 teams in your half once = 37 games? Haven't worked out how many match days that requires.

A draw against both Ross County and St Johnstone might be enough for Europe assuming Celtic take points off them and they take points off each other

But if we don't win on the Friday then Celtic don't need to scud anyone and can have a party instead.

And for some reason they then referred to West Ham??

But the reason for the package of measures is that no-one will give up anything for nothing. Clubs won't distribute money without the increased opportunity of them staying in the top league via the 4 up scenario of the middle 8. That's why the options cannot be cherry picked.

I don't think the season ticket thing is an issue, I buy my ticket to see the games Motherwell are involved in. Now crazy as the new system seems I don't think it impacts my season ticket. This I year had no idea that I would see a fourth game against Ross County. In fact it might have been refreshing to have played Partick Thistle and Morton in recent weeks rather than Dundee and St Mirren

Yes, you are right looking at it from the second league's point of view. I was looking at it from the position of the top league. But still in comparison to the status quo there are four chances to come up rather than one. Still don't like it but can see the arguments for and against. My biggest issue is that in the top league one or two teams will get detatched even in the first 22 games, these teams just down tools until the 'new split'. Also, what is the timing of the split with respect to the January window? i am sure your transfer activity will be linked to what league you will be in.

No. if you win 22 games in a row you will not be in the middle 8 and will not have points reset to zero. 4 up gives you a better chance of a return. No? I am not defending the set up, Don't particularly like it but we need to not poke holes in it that aren't there.

The thing is that I understand the need for the package of measures to get most things we want. Why would a diddy team vote for play offs (greater chance of relegation) and get nothing in return? The middle 8 givers them a better chance of returning to the top table. I understand the concept that if we all come together under this package then change will be easier in the future. I'm not certain how that change will happen if all the big decisions are protected by an 11-1 vote.

If its one league body is the voting 41-1 for specific matters?

Happy with that.

Give the guy on the turnstile some money and he will let you in no problem.

We ripped through Scandinavia a couple of years back.

Just think what the scores could be if some of the team would take a shot from outside the box. Law had one go, and scored.

He's the best winger I ever saw, tho he plays through the middle

It's been a while, but who is going. 2 - 0 to the good guys.

Last year the answer was Win league Qualify for champions league Win scottish cup Win league cup Qualify for Europa league Now that no. 2 has been achieved it moves to no. 4 The debate on the other thread is comparing a period of time for us to a one off event for St Mirren, on balance the sum of our high points in the past 6 years outweigh the equivalent period for Saints.

Would it be the February '75 game, that finished 4-1 but I don't have the details of when the goals were scored.

I seem to remember that exact same scenario against Hibs in the '70s

There was but uefa insist on one place being won through the cup