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Looks like we have a 4-4-2, with Tait back on the right, and I assume Campbell in right mid. Or it’s a 4-3-3. Either way it seems to tick the boxes for what most of us were crying out for (no 3-5-2, tait on the right, some width up front). Will be interesting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Turnbull out with a virus. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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In Robinson’s interview today he said we’re a good bit down the line with a couple of signings, highlighting that we need pace and width, so it will be interesting to see what central midfielder we sign [emoji1] Also said that a couple will probably go out. I wonder if we will see some more of the reserves move out on loan for the second half of the season too.

Mbulu / Aldred / Dunne seems to be a decent combination, as per the post above I think the pace either side makes the difference. I think Hartley probably fits in the middle of the back 3 when he plays, as he looks suspect on the sides. McHugh is going to be in the lineup every week, and where most of us feel he is best suited at the back, his midfield performances have been good of late. Ideally I’d like to see Tait back on the right, which means ATS on the left, but he did con that penalty out of the ref the last time we played killie, so maybe he can do is a turn. We’d probably need Livingstone on the bench for when ATS gets injured though. In the middle, Turnbull and McHugh is a given, leaving the last spot to grimshaw, Campbell or Gorrin. Id just have Campbell in there and back him to turn it around. If we’re going to be shite i want to at least have the max number of players I like on the pitch. Up front will probably be main and Johnson, because they happen to be the least worst of our options. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I guess it was only a matter of time before the burrows chat started. I think the fact that he is a fan, and that he came from/started these here boards has a few folks thinking that they might be equally qualified. He has also chosen to put himself out there on social media, which many of us appreciate. Otherwise most folk probably wouldn’t even know who the CEO was. The facts are that he worked his way up through the ranks, and has been highly regarded by his peers for some time and multiple execs, owners, managers, board(s) have been happy with his ascent through the club structure. I don’t know what he did professionally before he joined the club, and neither does most folk on here, but it doesn’t matter. As for his current performance, we have made significant improvements to the pitch, facilities, and “matchday experience”, season tickets are up, revenue is up, we’re knocking off sizeable chunks of the club debt, the commercial arm of the club has seen huge improvements, our media team is excellent, and we succeeded in being selected for project brave (let’s not kid ourselves on, this place would have been at him with pitch forks if we hadn’t qualified for that). All this without a rich owner. You may not want to give him a knighthood, but to suggest he should be fired is ridiculous. He recruited the manager (I’m assuming some of the board and les were involved too) and robinson has been responsible for two cup finals. I’m kind of sick of people dismissing that fact, we don’t get many finals and both were great days with great build up. No one complained about our football in those cup runs. Who was the last manager to do that? He also gets the plaudits for signing kipre (if he gets the stick for the shite ones too). So regardless of how Robinson is doing now, if you think the chief exec should go because he signed Robinson, you’re an idiot. The alternative is hardly setting the heather alight in his new job either. We have shown that as a club we have prioritized stability and paying down debt, and won’t make knee jerk decisions. Unfortunately that may be to the short term detriment on the playing side, but it is the right thing to do, that’s how we all budget in real life and the club should be no different. We don’t have individual board members paying players wages like the Dempster / McCall regime had. We’re fan owned whether you like it or not, and whether the club likes it or not, as the fact is that no one has wanted to buy the club since Boyle put it up for sale all those years ago. I don’t think anyone likes our current style of football, I personally hate it , and there is fair debate over whether a new manager could do a better job, but let’s take a breath - this is far from a crisis. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I can see us doing what we did against Aberdeeen, rangers and Celtic at home and taking something from this. Everyone is beating everyone this season, and there’s enough negativity during and after the match, so I’ll stay optimistic for now. When I get to the stage of gloating about how shite we are, I’ll just give up I think.

Booing a player onto the pitch is old firm level cringe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Robinson will quit before he is fired, whenever that is. He’s nowhere near as bad as a lot of people think he is, and the club have a far higher opinion of him than most of us. It also costs money to fire managers. On one hand he is meeting the remit he was given (exceeded by some margin last year) under pretty tight constraints. On the other we can stay in 10th until the last game of the season then get relegated. So we need to be careful to spot the difference between inconsistency and freefall. So far we’ve been able to pull out results when things look bleak, and my guess is the board will gamble on that, pretty much the way that Hamilton have stuck with their guy for so long. And despite the “who cares who comes in, anyone’s better than him” attitude from those who have never let go of the disappointment of us taking him instead of a more sexy option, if the club makes the decision to fire him they better have a good option lined up. We all know that’s probably Lasley anyway, and I don’t know what that changes. The new manager would have the same restrictions as Robinson with recruitment, because it costs money to get rid of players and we know that it will be on a one out for one in basis if that happens. As with most managers, his recruitment has been a mixed bag. I think Carson, Gillespie, kipre, dunne, Hartley and Aldred have all been good. Tanner probably fits in that category, but we all seem to forget he was barely starting before his injury. His ability to sign a left back or a striker seems to be non existent though. My main frustration with our recruitment is probably more the fault of the club than the manager, and that’s our refusal to recruit Scottish players and our fascination with the English lower leagues. Overall, in the context of this season, I don’t see sacking him as something that makes a big difference, other than cheering up those who just don’t like him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just the usual PSA: to get rid of a player you need to either pay up his contract or get someone else to sign him. My guess is that we don’t have the money to do the former for the 10 players that are probably going to get the “get him tae” treatment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We were woeful. Don’t think anyone gets pass marks from that one. St Mirren were also terrible, and if there was a way for both teams to lose that would have been a fair result. It looks like we turned up thinking we already had the points, and that attitude only changed when they scored, and then we were screwed. We did almost snatch something in the last seconds, which would have been robbery, but at no point in the game did we look like we had a plan. We couldn’t even do the basics. Sticking on two more strikers was stupid, and made us worse. This was a game for someone like frear to offer something different, lumping the ball up to three guys who are pretty poor at winning the ball yielded the results most of us would have predicted. Bigi probably gets the blame for the loss because he pretty much gave them that goal, but to take the heat off anyone else in claret and amber for that display would be criminal. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Seems excessive, managers complain about decisions all the time, and things are said in the heat of the moment. I think a single match would have been enough. Shame the refs still get to be shite though.

It was the manager who said 600k, and I’m not sure why that would go down, especially since all of his international appearances came after that statement. However, I’m not sure how the rule works regarding which club he goes to affecting the amount. It is possible we decide to sell him instead, and take less, but I don’t know why we’d do that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The lineup looked like we were rotating some players because we have 3 winnable games in the next week and a bit, 2 against the teams we’re fighting relegation against. The manager has also been clear that the younger players need to be managed carefully. This is what many of us expected, and it makes sense considering our injury record. The guys that came in have all had spells in the starting lineup this season, and Sammon played well in the last game against Celtic, so it was hardly like throwing in the kids. I’m sure none of those players thought we were throwing in the towel. The players put in the effort and were organized in large parts, but dunne looked bad at left back and he had a nightmare couple of minutes to give away the first two. The third looked weird, was it deflected? Going forward we didn’t offer much. I thought bowman was anonymous and did nothing to force his way into regular selection. Sammon worked hard and got in behind a few times (something we don’t tend to do) but was reluctant to shoot. If you want to pay almost thirty quid to sit in the away end at Celtic park when we’ve been barely watchable this season (never mind any good) that’s your choice, but I’m not sure what anyone was realistically expecting tonight.

I like Frear, but if Hastie is coming back it makes sense to move Frear on if something can be organized. Unless we move to one up front I don’t see us signing a real winger, it will more likely be a forward with pace or a wing back. It’s going to be an interesting January, we have a lot of players who can sign pre contracts, some of who might still be injured when their contracts are up. There is also the comment Robinson made about is being lucky if we could hold onto dunne, who would be a big loss. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sounded like our commentator got a hard time from the saints fans, which I think is the first time I’ve ever heard a st Johnstone fan. He has a tendency to sugar coat our performances (magnificent), but it didn’t sound like they troubled us much. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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What were you expecting? Realistically? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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We have been terrible at Perth for a long long time, but maybe we can use our tendency to end (other teams) bad runs and turn this one around. I’ll take any performance that gets us a point or more. I’m on strong painkillers after oral surgery, so they’ll all look like pink elephants and unicorns to me anyway.

My “local” team would possibly be Atlanta utd (about 6 hours away) and they are getting crazy attendances in the 50k+ range, in only their second season. So the money is there. There are some players who would be standouts in our league, but others who wouldn’t get a game for us, summed up by the fact a team is excited about signing Andy rose. I’m the same as weeyin, I watch all sorts of football, but MLS just doesn’t work for me for some reason. Overall he gets to live where he and his family wants to, and gets to play at a decent level at the same time, so good move for him.

Nowhere near as bad as some folk make out, as is the case with many previous players who did that job, but wasn’t an ever present either so I don’t see this having a huge impact. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Now on our site - https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2018/12/10/andy-rose-to-sign-for-vancouver-whitecaps/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He’s gone to Vancouver whitecaps, as announced by them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Football can’t be compared to “normal” professions. For good or bad, there is the potential to earn a whole lot of money very quickly regardless of performance. You can leave Motherwell for English lower league nobodies and triple your salary for three years without even playing. After playing, unless you become a top manager or pundit, the same money just isn’t there and there are fewer jobs. So from a financial standpoint it makes sense to move if the opportunity arises. However, many young players know that it makes more footballing sense to get regular playing time, build a reputation, and reap the rewards of a bigger move a few years later, and actually playing games is why most got into the profession in the first place. Either way, I’ve never had a problem with players moving to maximize their income, that’s totally their business. Ideally the good ones stay and develop and the shore ones leave before we give them a contract, but that’s not how it works. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk