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That's fine, I'll go to Amsterdam but tell the wife I went to Lublijana, Kuala Lumpur or wherever the hell we get drawn.

I voted for "Both Fanzines" though to be honest I could pass on GLF, I still buy it but I prefer OSB. I haven't bought a programme for years but I rarely miss a fanzine. They're cheaper (though I didn't vote for this in the poll because it's not a deciding factor for me, I wouldn't buy a programme if it was £1 like the 'zines) but more importantly they are "Fan driven content" and "Not a mouthpiece of the club" (both of which I did vote for). Largely free from censorship, they can voice support or disapproval for goings-on at the club whilst representing the views of the fans and as both fanzines openly invite contributions, differing viewpoints can be represented. Perhaps it's personal taste but I'd much rather read this than the sanitised stuff in the programme which is simply news you could have read on the official site or interviews with players (I could live without knowing what Mark Reynolds likes on his pieces). Not slating the new award-winning programme, it's horses for courses but my preference is the 'zines. As for the future of the fanzine, I'd be happy with them to "Continue in their current format". While "Internet forums are taking the place of fanzines" giving fans more of a voice on a wider range of subjects, I think fanzines still have a place. Editors and contributors seem to hold back on certain subjects on forums because they intend to publish their slant in the fanzine, so there are still fresh views to be read in them. I'd even suggest that forums might help fanzines to an extent, in that an editor can quckly see which subjects are creating the most discussion/division in the support and respond to them. They may also inspire them to cover topics which had not occurred to them or ones they thought the reader might not be interested in, whether brought up by a poster on a forum or a post sparking an idea in a contributors head. As much as I enjoy reading the forums (which I do daily), I still buy the fanzines and read them from cover to cover. Besides, it's easier to read a fanzine on the bog than it is to read the forums.

They finished 4th in their group with 4 points from 4 games. They'd started off promisingly with a 3-0 in their first game too.

I bookmarked some of those, here they are in case anyone's interested... The walk from the Stanislas (Worth a watch to see if you recognise anyone - even I'm in there) (This one's a cracker) (I ripped and clipped this one and use it as my ringtone) There's plenty kicking about on YouTube.

The Scottish game would suffer financially but in my view it would still be better off without the OF. I'd trade the riches and the quality (and I use those terms loosely) we have just now for a league, which may not have "big names" and probably wouldn't set Europe ablaze but would be a damn sight more competitive than the current set-up. In any given season, almost any club would be in with a chance of winning the league or realistic shot at a cup, we could go back to splitting the the gate money rather than the OF's greedy keep-your-home-gate stance, any money coming into the game could be split evenly rather than the OF pocketing the bulk of it between them. There'd be no need for the (daft) split either because there'd be a hell of a lot more to play for than there is now, no need to manufacture the tension. I really don't give a monkey's about the Champions League, if we were in it I'd be delighted but I'd rather have a competitive domestic league with a level playing field (no FP pitch jokes) for all the teams involved. A league where we're not fighting each other to be "the best of the rest" but for the title itself. That and I'd be glad to see the back of their venomous bile.

Aye, it was a wee shame for them.

'86 you say?

What Melvin said. We want battlers not bottlers.

The pic in the programme showed the Canturbury logo in the centre with the 'Well badge below it, so it can't be that one. Besides, that one's already been ruled out by the insiders.

Reckon it'll be pay at the gate for me next season. Nothing to do with today's shambles and everything to do with my work.

Work permitting, I'll be there for the home games.

I think I'm realistic enough to know that we're not going to be great every season, we're Motherwell not Barcelona, I don't expect a team with the new Pele/Maradona/Cruyff/Matthews/whatever, I just want a team that actually give a shit. This lot just don't cut it... ... and that pretty much sums it up for me. A few have pass marks in my book but there's a lot of wasted jerseys out there, players looking to play their way to a bigger club without realising that they'll actually have to bother their arse trying while they're here or players just happy to take a pay cheque. Like I said, I don't expect world class talent in 'Well shirts but I expect a bit of effort, a bit of fight and a bit of backbone. These gutless wonders need to take a long, hard look at themselves. I'd wager that Mutley was the only person in the ground who couldn't see from five minutes in that his starting positions were wrong and his persistance only made the problem worse (or perhaps he was just too stubborn to change it). Everyone could see that it wasn't going to work and to wait until 75 minutes to change it is ridiculous. Fair play to the Midden, they achieved what they came here to do. They dragged us down to their level and it paid off. As per usual, we let ourselves down.

There's an article on the BBC site about this, it includes the MMcG quotes... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/s...rem/8004397.stm In case anyone wants to read it.

Looks like my ST will be sitting gathering dust post-split, regardless of whether we're top 6 or bottom 6. I hate it when work interferes with my real life.

Delighted the Cooper has been handed back but I'm reluctant to believe this is entirely because JB has a new found love for the fans. Admit you were wrong John. Pleased with this too....

Kid Kirk scored the goal. One of these for Kirky. Still my favourite.

Motherwell v Accies, 1st April 1989, 1-0 win for the 'Well. Can't find the scorer though. Accies were relegated that season.

That sums it up nicely for me. You saved me from typing it out. EDIT: FWIW the poll won't let me vote. I selected "Aye" in the first part but it seems to be a wee bit humpty because I've not selected anything in the second part (it's not relevant if you select "Aye" in the first part).

I still don't. It'd be Johnny Gahagan for me, though I liked Ally Mauchlen too.

It's this Saturday. 12.30 kick-off.

That'd be good. Had a wee look at ebay, not many kicking about but there's one here for £4.18 (inc. delivery), six here for £4.95 each (inc.delivery) and "more than 10" here for £5.98 each (inc. delivery). They're all 5ft x 3ft (1.5m x 0.9m if you prefer). In case anyone's interested.

Clarky and Sutton. Sheridan on the bench...at Celtic.

Hawd the fucking 'phone here. I had an image posted in there (and Petty quoted it tae), where'd it go?

Nae herm in askin'.