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I completely agree with you Andy. I think most involved with the group would be the first to tell you they are extremely grateful of any donation we have received in the past from 'Well fans from this forum and fans who have donated in person. What's important to note is that we often put our hands in our own pockets for displays and when we are in need of funding we usually try to specify exactly what it's for. Like I mentioned earlier in this thread I can completely understand why people don't like the idea of "standing side by side with the Green Brigade". The reasons, like mentioned in here by many forum users, are obvious as to why people don't like the Green Brigade. What's being overlooked here is this isn't just the Well Bois standing side by side with them, in fact it's far from it. Rangers have openly spoke out about the act, when we've called for unity we've seen St Johnstone, Hibernian and others display banners, I'm sure this won't be the last "joint action" between sets of supporters over this. I'm massively against this bill as I believe it's dangerous. The conviction rate highlights how much of a joke it is. More than half of the cases fail and those that deliver a guilty verdict are often found guilty straight away as young supporters are encouraged by police and lawyers to plead guilty just to get it over with. Most fans that do challenge it often see the charges overturned but it's the legal fees, time off work, names printed in papers that can be emotionally draining, time consuming and often career threatening. I'm not daft, I know some people act like clowns at the football but many don't. Not every supporter wants to sit in silence and watch the game. Some like to push the boundaries and openly display their passion, especially teenagers or young adults. Aside from the bill I think there needs to be a complete overhaul in the way that football matches in this country are policed. There's a real inconsistency which varies from stadium to stadium. Heavy handed policing and stewarding alongside rising ticket prices are driving people away from football, clubs should be doing more to cater for fans.

That may be correct MJW however there was legislation in place to tackle sectarianism before this introduction of the football bill in 2012. We have seen Hamilton supporters prosecuted for singing "Well, Well, Fuck yer Well". Regardless of your opinion on this song a 17 year old getting fined thousands of pounds and having a criminal record for life isn't justifiable for his actions.

MJW, I think the statement released via the Heavy Hands Empty Stands Facebook answers your question when it states: "As supporters of Motherwell Football Club we would like to stress that it is not easy for us to stand shoulder to shoulder with supporters with Celtic, Rangers or any other Scottish club for that matter. It should be noted however that sometimes the colour of your scarf should be put aside for the greater good." The sad reality is we live in the West of Scotland which in my opinion is one of the only places on earth where football supporters wouldn't be able to see past their own prejudice for a greater good. Whilst I can understand people's reservations on ever siding with the Old Firm it's important to have a think about why this was done. Kids from all over Scotland are getting dragged through the courts and having their futures pulled away from under their feet for singing a song at the fitba. The sooner this Act is binned the better.

It's not been the best start to the season both on the park and in the stands. The Well Bois have a small core group who go week in week out, when we are playing well the numbers in our section swell and when we are struggling the numbers decline. Unfortunately that's just the way it is at the moment. For some reason our away support always tends to be louder and more energetic. It has always been our aim to bring more colour and noise to Fir Park and we will continue to do so. As always we would encourage others to get involved, come and sit in alongside us and help contribute to making Fir Park more enjoyable.

Surely you are not actually being serious? This is a complete overreaction from the league who have felt the need to respond to a sensationalist media campaign. The only act of "unacceptable conduct'. Had the Moshni incident not happened this wouldn't even be getting discussed. Did we see a fine for St Johnstone a couple of years ago when both set of supporters, home and away, invaded the pitch? Of course we didn't! Take Rangers out the equation and it's not an issue. The club took all necessary precautions and do not deserve a fine.

I like him at full-back. COF hit the nail on the head when he said if every player had Law's mentality we wouldn't be 11th. Gives 100% every week and that's all you can ask for!

The players should be showing appreciation to the supporters who pay their hard earned cash week in week out regardless of the result. Even more so when its the longest away trip of the season. A quick clap then down the tunnel is poor. All over the globe you see fans celebrating with fans after victories and talking to fans after defeats. Have a look at this from Dortmund fans and players a couple of weeks ago after their defeat to a very poor side: My link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aAeVlACFzg Hate to admit it but Ronny Delia is the perfect example of how it should be done. Every away game he makes sure all players go to the supporters, link arms and give them a cheer. It's simple yet effective. It highlights that everyone is in it together. The scenes last year at Aberdeen were excellent but we need more of that.

The lad Grant on loan from Everton looked very good. Despite the keeper letting in 3 goals he looked decent also. Hopefully the new lads will fit in and hit the ground running in the next few weeks but don't want that to mean the likes of Moore, Carswell and Thomas miss out as they are more than capable. Real disappointment for me yesterday was the fact that only 1 player came over to the travelling fans at the end of the match. Fair play John Sutton! Off the pitch things seem positive but performances on the pitch need to improve dramatically ASAP!

AndyP hits the nail on the head. Murphy is a moron. Bringing booze back is a must. Clubs in our country need the revenue!

I think tickle pickle hit the nail on the head by saying its a team effort. Those who sit in that section of the East Stand want nothing more than the noise and passion to spread throughout Fir Park but understand its not everyone's cup of tea. I'd say the numbers tend to be growing year on year mainly with the younger generations wanting to be part of it. Personally I would like to see a few older heads getting involved. At big cup games, euro ties, away games you tend to find people more than happy to be part of the action but its really the run of the mill home games against Killie, ICT, St Mirren etc where the team would benefit from a bit more vocal back in my opinion.

Well fans end of season video now online. Enjoy!

It's quite simple for me. If a pub was charging £8 for a pint & wouldn't let you wear the clothes you feel comfortable wearing then you wouldn't go to that pub. Football clubs take advantage of fans emotional attachment & won't change unless hit where it hurts which in the current climate is in gate receipts. There was a successful boycott of tannadice last season which seen DUFC lose £1000s in gate receipts. This season they were excellent hosts & let Well fans bring their drum, stand, sing & enjoy the game in the manner in which they wanted. It's about time fans stood for change. We are very fortunate that our club have a very healthy relationship with their supporters & are active in promoting a better match day experience for all. We shouldn't let other clubs take our money for granted.

Always put off going to Celtic Park for the obvious reasons but as others have said its the best chance we've had to take something from the game. No Motherwell drum allowed in Celtic Park this Saturday....

Why do they have to be any of these terms? Why can't they just be labelled Motherwell fans? It only seems to be the media and those not involved who are giving them these tags.

For me it's absolutely baffling that people still believe this myth that we are too small a club to have a successful fan ownership model. If its possible for clubs with similar sized fan bases such as FC United of Manchester, Exeter, Wycombe Wanderers, Wimbledon, Derry City & many more then why at Motherwell would that be any different? You've also got all the clubs in the Bundesliga 2 & 3 with a similar sized fanbase to MFC. Fan ownership works for clubs, in all sports, regardless if they are a Barcelona or a Bellshill Athletic. If people want to question the proposed model & suggest alternatives then fair enough as this is a discussion board but to say MFC don't have a big enough fanbase is just silly. Yes it may take time to build up financies but its not impossible.

I'm guessing some of you will have already have seen this in last week's newsletter but I felt it may be worth a wee push on here! Surely we can get a few teams together from our here? Maybe a forum team? The Well Society are also delighted to announce the first ever Annual Five a Side tournament with the Well Society Trophy at Stake. When: Saturday 12th October, 1:30pm-4:30pm Where: Fir Park Astro Turf Conditions: 5 a side, maximum 7 players per team (5 players + 2 subs) Entry £50 per team. Participants must be 16 years & over. The competition is open to Non-members as well as Members What’s at stake: The Well Society Trophy + £150 cash for winning team. Tournament Structure: The tournament is restricted to 16 teams participating & they will be split into 4 groups of 4. The top 2 teams from each group will then go through to the knockout phase / quarter final. Register your team by sending the details to wellsociety@motherwellfc.co.uk

Agree with those that are against the seeding. Interestingly many fans in France boycott the league cup for these reasons & the section of Nancy's most vocal supporters was left empty last night.

I thought due to it being seeded we can't get another Premiership club?

@spflofficial: #ScottishLeagueCup Third Round Draw will take place at Easter Road Stadium on Thursday 29th August at 11.30am #SPFL

Make your own!

What's probably worth noting since I seen the above comment about payment scheme is that you can pay your membership up in installments.

Can only echo what the guys have posted above! Excellent season both on the park & in the stands, lets give the players a real good send off!

Discussing issues on Off The Ball just now. This very website just got a wee mention from Tam Cowan!

Giving this another bump folks. Voting closes on Friday so please help give this a final push! http://www.netmums.com/home/netmums-campaigns/comic-relief-vote-for-your-charity

Here's the links folks