bobbybingo

They could hire any of us idiots to do it. The hard part is what comes next.

The tipping point for me will probably be if we lose our next two games. If that happens, any remaining reasonable argument for keeping him (too close to the window to bring someone else in/he deserves one more go) will no doubt give way to anger. Would the board feel the same way? The fact two of them are walking shortly themselves might save him if they or whoever is left in charge doesn't fancy the dirty work. Billy Reid survived 22 games without a win, relegation and failure to come straight back up at Hamilton, so anything's possible.

I don't disagree at all, but I think guys at our level understand how it works now and beggars can't be choosers. The only club that hasn't repeatedly sacked their managers is Celtic. Their domestic success brings different problems and they end up with the same stats as everyone else.

It may not make for good reading, but it's par for the course these days, so I'm not sure how much it would deter any intetested parties. The only SPL club who have had less than 4 managers since 2018 is Livingston. If Martindale's jaiket falls, they complete the set.

We're the 3rd team in 7 days to achieve that feat against Rangers. Not an excuse, just a fact.

Martindale said he needs guys who are ready to go into the team now, and it's the same for us. No development players, no pet projects, no just coming back from a serious injury, no been sitting on their arse for months. Problem is, where do you find those guys in January? The obvious answer is, do what managers did in ye olde days - identify a decent player, then go and buy them. And then we all woke up....

I think we're about out returnees, player wise. I can't think of anyone we'd want to bring back and who would realistically come back. We gave it a go with Moult and it didn't work. Good luck to him, though he seems to be struggling after a good start in the Championship. By god, we could do with an Allan Campbell right now, but that really is just dreaming. The idea that we should be begging Stephen Robinson to come back as manager, as was suggested on here earlier, is obviously a non starter, for several reasons. The folk who are there now - or the ones who will be coming in - are the folk who will save us or not. I hope someone at Fir Park knows what the right move is.

I'll look out the Brasso and rubber gloves.

What he proved before years of injuries took their toll has little or no bearing on the here and now. He hasn't scored in 8 games against opposition that is, unbelievably, of a lower standard than we're facing.

True. But what we don't need are dreams of former players or managers getting us out of this.

What makes you think he'd be anything other than mediocre if he was playing in the SPL?

Then why sack him?

Ok. So what part does Robinson play in fixing this?

Sounds like a plan.

It's definitely 5 o'clock somewhere.

I think you need to forget about Robinson. He's gone and won't be coming back, so he's irrelevant to our current situation.

Did I say anything about them being awarded penalties? If you don't think there's anything weird about them being the only top tier side in Europe to avoid having a penalty awarded against them in their domestic league since VAR came into use, fair enough. And I'm not remotely interested in which school Jim O'Brien or anyone else went to. I'll leave that to the bigots.

No penalties against any side for in any league for 2 years beggars belief, especially in the days of VAR. You're right though, these runs do happen. Rangers went 44 games without conceding a penalty in the league 3 years ago. There doesn't have to be a grand conspiracy at play for certain teams to be treated differently to others in this country, just officials behaving like so many other people.

Does anyone seriously think that Rangers possess such quality defenders they were the only top division team in Scotland, England, Germany, Spain, Italy, France, Portugal and the Netherlands not to concede a penalty last season - in fact, for 70 odd games? And have you written your letter to Santa?

Yes, McVAR hasn't spotted a single infringement in the Rangers penalty box, but its European cousin has been to Specsavers. We all know, because they've always had the benefit of the doubt at either end of the pitch. The incessant, pathetic whining that comes from their ugly sister doesn't change that.

We should ask for their advice on that. They've done none of those things for 2 years, apparently.

Very true.

I get your point - the club know far more about who is available than we do. Would that not suggest they are in a far better position to decide whether Kettlewell should be sacked or not than we are?

I'd like to know who was available/being considered before saying Kettlewell has to go. It's not at the 'can't be any worse' stage yet. Was Harri Kampman in work when he came here? If not, the last manager we took from another club was Tommy McLean, so I doubt we'll go down that path.

Unless I'm missing something, the managers who are out of contract at this point in time are currently unemployed. Can't you think of anyone you'd fancy?