bobbybingo

I'd be interested to hear what would you like to see happen at Motherwell to change the club approach and mentality. Specifically.

Allan Campbell's Millwall loan isn't going too well, not getting off the bench under the caretaker manager. He must be hoping Nathan Jones gets the job.

I thought he didn't want to come here.

He's certainly experienced enough, but I'm not sure what he ever achieved in management that would make you think he was up to it.

Who would you go for? I know it's not our job, but if you want Kettlewell binned right now you must have somebody in mind.

And that's what I said. It seems awfy harsh on Biereth to say that based on one game, especially with that line up and those tactics.

Yeah. So in your original comment you weren't actually referring to them as "so called strikers"?

He might be now, but he previously played, and scored reasonably often, at a higher level, as folk pointed out when comparing him to Bair. Right now, there's hardly a player in our squad who looks better than pub level, so he's far from alone.

He'll be getting Santa's sack for Christmas.

Based on one game, a guy who's scored 3 goals despite hardly playing has become a so-called striker? We're all pissed off, but come on.

As pointless complaints go, who gets subbed first between Bair and Wilkinson is right up there.

4 times, including the St Mirren League Cup game. Bair was subbed 4 times, Wilkinson twice. So clearly not every time.

How often have they started together?

He was subbed on Wednesday. Are you just making stuff up now?

Is Biereth a so-called striker now?

At least the butter fingers will make ramming it easier.

Are you Santa?

They have to be working on his distribution, because it's awful. Between that and coming out for cross balls etc, he looks increasingly nervous to me - as does the whole defence. The Stevie Woods effect? His form's definitely not what it was, but will Kettlewell drop him if he's not totally convinced about Oxborough? We saw where chopping and changing goalies got Dundee Utd last season.

We kept quite a few clean sheets and rarely lost more than 1 or 2 in the games after Kettlewell took charge. Van Veen was banging them in, but we only scored more than 2 in 3 games. We've just scored 5 in 2 at home and only taken 1 point, whereas under SK last season it would probably have been 6 points. Fixating on our - admittedly - shit strikers is missing the point. Unless folk think we should be winning games 4-3 or 5-4.

We're on 74 mins as the average time of our goals, the latest in the league. Every other team has scored most of their goals in the second half (apart from St Johnstone, funnily enough), most of them between 50 and 65 mins. We're 7th top scorers, so it's the goals we're conceding that are killing us. 30% of all SPL goals so far have been scored in the last 15 mins. Most folk seem to see that as a positive sign, obviously you don't.

I know what you're saying. My point is, most teams, including us, can't afford to spend much of their budget on back up goalies they hope won't be needed, so you'll probably find they're not on a par with the first choice guy. A decent goalkeeper like Mark Gillespie might be content to sit on the sidelines and watch his career drift away at Newcastle, but you won't see anyone of that standard happy to get splinters in his arse at Fir Park on our wages. I said earlier, Kettlewell doesn't have many sellable assets, but Kelly's one of them. We'll see what he thinks of Oxborough if/when he's sold, which could well be in January.

My bosses don't have a back up for me. That's probably due to the fact they're not gonnae pay someone to sit on their arse doing hee haw as long as they know I'm doing my job adequately. Obviously, I'm not a professional footballer, and in that industry the bosses are obliged to employ people who may only ever be back up. I doubt they want to shell out a fortune in doing that, so there might be a big difference in quality between the first choice goalkeeper and his back up. Personally, I couldn't name you the second choice goalies at most Scottish clubs because they very rarely play, barring injuries. As long as Kettlewell thinks Kelly is the better option, he'll pick him, unless he's actually trying to lose his job.

Does he look good in training?

Kettlewell's already been talking about teams looking closely at Kelly following his cap. We've done well with loan keepers in the past, so even if he doesn't fancy Oxborough, he must be thinking hard about the money he could get for shifting Kelly in January. Not a fortune, but mibbe enough to help bring one or two better quality players in, including an actual goalscorer with 2 working legs.

If he's getting 10K a week (or anywhere near that) at Groningen, you think we should have paid him that? Where would that money come from - whatever billionaire you think would like to buy the club?