bobbybingo

We weren't in the Championship, they were. Is your ambition for Motherwell, to finish second in the league and get to cup semis/finals? Done both - at McInnes' expense and on a smaller budget. For non Old Firm teams, winning cups has as much to do with luck as anything else, you can't just buy your way to a trophy. But if you really want us to go for it with managers and players, you have to be talking about a new owner, because we all realise the fan base won't provide the money required for that. I have no idea where we'd find someone who wanted to pump cash into Motherwell, but who knows, maybe there's another John Boyle just waiting out there....

Spencer's the other broken nose. Doubtful, along with Butcher.

Maybe the reason Kilmarnock splashed out on McInnes was to make sure they got out of the Championship. He does well in that league. And maybe the reason we didn't push the boat out was because we absolutely fucked 2 of his teams in cup semi-finals, or it could've been the fact this managerial giant won a total of one trophy with Aberdeen's budget and fan base behind him.

Kilmarnock are obviously happy to spend more money on a manager and go with that monstrosity of a pitch. I'm not sure which St Mirren managers you think we couldn't have attracted.

You simply can't compare Tommy McLean's time with today. In those days a manager could attempt to buy his way out of a really bad spell, there was no transfer window to tie his hands. If a club is stuck on a losing run now, the boss better pray it happens in December. Otherwise, him getting the boot is the only change that can be made. I doubt any manager would actually want to stay at Fir Park for 10 years these days. Building a successful team has become almost impossible when any decent player is off within 6 months or a year. Look at the countless duds Tommy brought in before he got there with a couple of sides. We haven't seen his like again and almost certainly never will.

I think we're past the inspirational stage as far as fans are concerned. Anything he said after the game was gonnae piss folk off. It's simple - Kettlewell and the players need to start picking up points, whatever way they can, because words are literally pointless now.

Take it McGinn will be out. Kettlewell was talking about a possible fractured cheekbone - and 2 broken hooters (Butcher and?)

I'd be interested to hear what would you like to see happen at Motherwell to change the club approach and mentality. Specifically.

Allan Campbell's Millwall loan isn't going too well, not getting off the bench under the caretaker manager. He must be hoping Nathan Jones gets the job.

I thought he didn't want to come here.

He's certainly experienced enough, but I'm not sure what he ever achieved in management that would make you think he was up to it.

Who would you go for? I know it's not our job, but if you want Kettlewell binned right now you must have somebody in mind.

And that's what I said. It seems awfy harsh on Biereth to say that based on one game, especially with that line up and those tactics.

Yeah. So in your original comment you weren't actually referring to them as "so called strikers"?

He might be now, but he previously played, and scored reasonably often, at a higher level, as folk pointed out when comparing him to Bair. Right now, there's hardly a player in our squad who looks better than pub level, so he's far from alone.

He'll be getting Santa's sack for Christmas.

Based on one game, a guy who's scored 3 goals despite hardly playing has become a so-called striker? We're all pissed off, but come on.

As pointless complaints go, who gets subbed first between Bair and Wilkinson is right up there.

4 times, including the St Mirren League Cup game. Bair was subbed 4 times, Wilkinson twice. So clearly not every time.

How often have they started together?

He was subbed on Wednesday. Are you just making stuff up now?

Is Biereth a so-called striker now?

At least the butter fingers will make ramming it easier.

Are you Santa?

They have to be working on his distribution, because it's awful. Between that and coming out for cross balls etc, he looks increasingly nervous to me - as does the whole defence. The Stevie Woods effect? His form's definitely not what it was, but will Kettlewell drop him if he's not totally convinced about Oxborough? We saw where chopping and changing goalies got Dundee Utd last season.