steelboy

Well we'll soon find out whether it's a better idea to sign a proven goal scorer or do a Supermarket Sweep charge down the football equivalent of the middle aisle of Aldi. It can't be long now until Las and Robinson have St Mirren playing in Claret and Amber. They are still pining for the Well.

It's definitely funny that people were doing a sensible act and seriously explaining it was impossible to sign any more players because we already had 26 first team players a few weeks ago and now we have 30. The quality isn't there but we will have some bench to throw on when we are losing.

So another Andy Halliday situation.

The idea that we are about to be cracked down on for letting teenagers into the ground despite the fact that the SFA have looked the other way about huge amounts of criminality at other clubs is quite funny.

We are talking about two different things here. I don't think young high schooler are the ones causing bother. As far as the bad behaviour goes I don't really care. It's part and parcel of football in a working class area, it's like going to Spoons and complaining that people are drinking irresponsibly. We all know that going to Motherwell games is a very safe experience and no one was crying out for any of this prior to Caldwell being appointed.

That's the sound of a barrel being scraped.

If there has to be an age limit then make it high school age. Councils say that kids are capable of travelling up to three miles a day to school unsupervised so going to Fir Park shouldn't be an issue at this age. I don't go to many away games since the lockdown, probably less than a dozen in that period. I don't like pyro so banning people for that wouldn't bother me and might cut back on it but the process has to be above board and transparent with a right to defend yourself. The current system which magically appeared with Brian Caldwell clearly isn't.

Aye the stewards have been enforcing it and even knocking back older kids who don't have ID. Complete idiocy.

Why? What makes you thinks that kids who are sitting in Third Year at school today can't go to Fir Park unaccompanied without a safety issue?

The crazy thing is we have a CEO admitting that he can't make the stadium a safe place for 13 year olds despite the stadium having been a safe place for 13 year olds for the past few decades. He's on the video giving it a Helen Lovejoy 'but there might be a fire alarm'. What happens if there is a fire alarm in McDonalds, or Asda or Vue Cinema where there are unaccompanied youths? What's makes Fir Park riskier than than those places. There is a clear culture nowadays of management people who are unable to deliver the core tenets of their job so they create daft rules to enforce so they can point to having achieved something. I saw a Scottish Government idiot on Twitter the other day bragging about Scotrail only having a 2% cancellation rate despite the fact that they achieved that by removing 29,000 services from the timetable. Caldwell seems to be cut from the same cloth.

What he's saying about the police operating a defacto blacklist is something that needs to be looked into. Why aren't they using banning orders? Havering complete pish about it being down to the SFA when it clearly wasn't in place last season. "The last thing we want to do is knock people back" says the guy who knocks people... "People of my generation went at that age no problem". Naw kids born in 2010 were going no problem in May this year.

It looks like he knows he has made an arse of this but doesn't want to back down after having his recommendation to accept 'Erik's' bid kicked into the bin by the support. The signs at the moment aren't great.

He's hit double figures 6 times which makes me think he's more likely to do it again than any of our current strikers. Scoring 10-15 is still hugely valuable for a club at our level and we know from watching him he's a very good technical player and creative.

If you are daft enough to think that mean average is a good way of looking at it then that's obviously what it looks like.

Van Veen hit 11 in his first season for us when he was playing on the wing a lot so I'm not sure where the 7 or 8 goals comment comes from. He's a significantly better footballer than all the forwards we have at the moment.

So the most likely outcome is Ryan Jack and Vale? I'd rather have the Blackpool guy on loan as a striker than Vale who is a grafter but doesn't have much impact on games. Scotland u21 international Josh Adam left Man City and was originally linked with clubs with in Germany and France but nothing happened. He's getting linked with Wrexham now but he could be an option for us as an attacking mid.

Get it right up that wee prick Devlin for diving in the lead up to Sparrow's goal.

Their boardroom is full of Lords and Knighthoods. The Plastic Paddy stuff is branding for dafties.

Inside the stadium the club should take the initiative to protect workers and other supporters but I don't see why they would get involved with matters away from the stadium. If the Police want a banning order then they should go to court.

Very naive.

When I spoke to Caldwell about this after the Q&A I pointed out that he would be barring kids in Third Year at High School and he didn't believe me at first so they obviously haven't looked at it very thoroughly. The SLO started up with some hysterical 'what if' scenarios about issues with young fans but didn't seem very happy when I suggested they contact other venues that allow unaccompanied youths such as cinemas or fast food restaurants for advice if they couldn't figure it out themselves.

Is there not a quasi protection racket where all clubs are expected to employ at least one retired polis with the correct funny hand shake? The Old Firm both employ ex police in security roles.

If the club are happy to go along with these unfair rules then the first problem is the club.

Aye it's not hard to see what's going on here. Instead of going through courts which require some transparency and where individuals have the right to defend themselves they are using 'licensing' as a parralel system to enforce whatever rules suit people like Bob Park. If the club are questioned about it they will just dribble on about 'best practice' and vague threats of 'sanctions' (they seem to have replaced the big bad auditors under the bed as a catch all threat).

I've just read Derek's post on P&B and it's outrageous the club are banning fans on the say so of the police with no due process at all. The Society needs to get that and the age limit sorted.