David Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I've just come home from a game that saw a crowd of just under 9,000. A game on a relatively cold, damp Wednesday night. I took my other half with me to her first Motherwell game, and she fucking loved it. As soon as we got back to the car she asked me when the next game was, and was well up for going to the Aberdeen game. When I told her that her £10 seat in the O'Donnell stand will cost her £22 on Saturday she suddenly lost the enthusiasm to go. I wonder how many others will be saying the same thing after tonights game? This would have been an excellent opportunity for the club to kick on and get some new bodies through the turnstiles, but I guarantee that when I plank my arse in my east stand seat on Saturday it'll be back to the usual attendance. It's frustrating as hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 To answer your question, I would say YES! The only problem is unless all clubs adapt this cheaper ticketing method it won't really work, will it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorey Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I agree totally, think if prices were reduced we would get more through the gates. Although , I am aware of a few people who, generally follow the 'old squirm' at weekends, were at the game tonight because of the reduced prices and no footie on the tele. Don't think we would get them if the 'old squirm' were playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Yes very good crowd. However Radio Scotland said official crowd was 8,337 and that the number of Dundee Utd fans was 3,500. By my reckoning then our home support was only about 4,500 which is about our core rump. So the only reason for a big crowd was the size of the travelling away support brought down by Dundee Utd. But this would perhaps have been much smaller had it been £20 to get in. My point is that the reduction in gate price to £10 did not seem to excite more locals to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 There were far more Well fans there tonight compared to normal. All tonight's attendance shows is that folk will turn up for big games. And if everyone brought 2,500-3,000 travelling fans our average would shoot up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 There were far more Well fans there tonight compared to normal. All tonight's attendance shows is that folk will turn up for big games. And if everyone brought 2,500-3,000 travelling fans our average would shoot up. Your last point is correct but how you can say there were far more 'Well fans there tonight than normal is beyond me. If there were 8,337 in total and 3,500 were in the away end then that makes the home section of the gate 4,837 which is about maybe 837 above normal. Yes better to have them (and more importantly their money) but is was hardly a ringing endorsement by the locals. You can see why John Boyle has chucked it as he tried everything he could to try and boost our support but to no avail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 No football to speak of on TV had as big an influence as the gate price as well as the fact it was a winner takes all cup tie make it a tenner for the upcoming league game and I'll bet you dont get 3500 arabs down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjy Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 People around me were surprised at the crowd announcement. I was in the O'Donnell stand. It must have been empty behind me as I don't know where the 6000 empty ones were. They certainly weren't in the Cooper East or South Stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roly Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 We've prooved it doesn't work in the past. 50% reduction in ticket prices = 20% increase in attendance = club losing money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Your last point is correct but how you can say there were far more 'Well fans there tonight than normal is beyond me. If there were 8,337 in total and 3,500 were in the away end then that makes the home section of the gate 4,837 which is about maybe 837 above normal. Yes better to have them (and more importantly their money) but is was hardly a ringing endorsement by the locals. You can see why John Boyle has chucked it as he tried everything he could to try and boost our support but to no avail. Because I prefer to look around me rather than trust official figures. There were far more Motherwell fans there than usual, I don't care what figures have been quoted what I'm saying is a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Because I prefer to look around me rather than trust official figures. There were far more Motherwell fans there than usual, I don't care what figures have been quoted what I'm saying is a fact. Gies peace. So you counted them all in and then counted them all out then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Gies peace. So you counted them all in and then counted them all out then! Surely anybody who was at the game would agree there were clearly more 'Well fans there than usual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephmc1886 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Because I prefer to look around me rather than trust official figures. There were far more Motherwell fans there than usual, I don't care what figures have been quoted what I'm saying is a fact. From where i was in thePOD it looked close to sold out, busier than the Odense game! Yet our official attendance is 13742. Is it no the end of the tax year soon LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East_Stand_Al Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Because I prefer to look around me rather than trust official figures. There were far more Motherwell fans there than usual, I don't care what figures have been quoted what I'm saying is a fact. Certainly looked busier the East Stand seemed almost full, The Coop looked busy and the POD looked to be fuller also. I never counted anyone in or out but in general the stadium looked and felt busier than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUNKspex Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 David , pay your other half in ya miserable... Dont let her loose the enthusiasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-in-Oz Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I never counted anyone in or out but in general the stadium looked and felt busier than usual. Maybe there was just lots of fat people there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I've said this before and it might not be popular with home fans but if you want to attract bigger crowds you aim to attract away fans, not home fans. Basically the home fans turn out anyway and reducing prices only attracts a small increase. Say from 4,000 to 4,500. However if Dundee Utd have a support of 7,000 fans you have a much bigger market to aim at. Get 1,000 or 2,000 of them to travel to that match and you get bigger attendances. I also think having a good away support at a match makes it a much better experience. The last two games have been great because there was two sets of supporters in the ground. A lot of that excitement is lost when, say, Hamilton Accies bring over 100 fans. I don't go to away matches any more because its just not affordable but I would if clubs made it financially viable. Honestly I think clubs have to look at away fans being much more important than they are at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I've said this before and it might not be popular with home fans but if you want to attract bigger crowds you aim to attract away fans, not home fans. Basically the home fans turn out anyway and reducing prices only attracts a small increase. Say from 4,000 to 4,500. However if Dundee Utd have a support of 7,000 fans you have a much bigger market to aim at. Get 1,000 or 2,000 of them to travel to that match and you get bigger attendances. I also think having a good away support at a match makes it a much better experience. The last two games have been great because there was two sets of supporters in the ground. A lot of that excitement is lost when, say, Hamilton Accies bring over 100 fans. I don't go to away matches any more because its just not affordable but I would if clubs made it financially viable. Honestly I think clubs have to look at away fans being much more important than they are at the moment. Got to agree wi that. Most fans pick and choose the few away games they go to, and I know I'm generally persuaded by cheaper tickets. It's a fairly fine line between what away games I go to like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdalli10 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 no chance there was 5000 empty seats. Don't think its fair to judge attendences on a scottish cup 1/4 final David i doubt we'll get half of that crowd for next Wed's game vs United if prices remained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBA Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 What it proves is that if prices are reduced for a big game then more people will go. Its a win-win for the club here, we're in the 1/4 finals which the club does not budget for and a replay at that. If we made only £1 profit from this game it would be a bonus for the coffers. To make it £10 every week would most likely not result in the same numbers turning up and the club losing money. It would only work, financially, if all clubs charged £10. We've got to remain competative, even though its way overpriced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Craig Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I've said this before and it might not be popular with home fans but if you want to attract bigger crowds you aim to attract away fans, not home fans. Basically the home fans turn out anyway and reducing prices only attracts a small increase. Say from 4,000 to 4,500. However if Dundee Utd have a support of 7,000 fans you have a much bigger market to aim at. Get 1,000 or 2,000 of them to travel to that match and you get bigger attendances. I also think having a good away support at a match makes it a much better experience. The last two games have been great because there was two sets of supporters in the ground. A lot of that excitement is lost when, say, Hamilton Accies bring over 100 fans. I don't go to away matches any more because its just not affordable but I would if clubs made it financially viable. Honestly I think clubs have to look at away fans being much more important than they are at the moment. I agree with you but it's not just the price of the ticket that puts me off going to away games. It's the price of travelling, either in the motor or on the train. I'm not expecting cheaper petrol but surely travel companies could be offered a 'travel partnership' from the SPL or SFA in return for cheaper train or bus tickets. Especially in these times where everyone is feeling the pinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Someone at Fir park is telling porkies with the official attendance figures the East, Cooper and the POD stands were all about 90% full as was the South stand, given that the official capacity is approx 13,400 or so and they announced a crowd of just under 9,000 !!! I dont know where the other 4,000 fans were going to sit . Even allowing for all the hospitallity and corporate punters who dont go through the turnstiles it just does not seem correct. But all that aside it was a cracking atmosphere at the game and in my opinion lowering the ticket prices will get more fans in the door, so heres hoping it will continue. Only downside was the embarassment of having to tell the United fans that there was not enough pies to go round, did they think that there would only be a few busloads of united fans down, the catering at FP is a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 They just looked fuller than normal, there definitely was an increase amongst the dossers support, I reckoned maybe 9000 when I looked round the ground before the announcement was made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makaveli Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Yes very good crowd. However Radio Scotland said official crowd was 8,337 and that the number of Dundee Utd fans was 3,500. By my reckoning then our home support was only about 4,500 which is about our core rump. So the only reason for a big crowd was the size of the travelling away support brought down by Dundee Utd. But this would perhaps have been much smaller had it been £20 to get in. My point is that the reduction in gate price to £10 did not seem to excite more locals to go. there were 8,337 motherwell support there tonight and 3500 dundee united there which all in makes 11.837 not bad at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 there were 8,337 motherwell support there tonight and 3500 dundee united there which all in makes 11.837 not bad at all Please pin this post on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.