Haggischomper Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Let's not forget Ki's tackle either - although not quite as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steviereidml1 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 The best thing to do for about the next week or so is don't buy any form of newspaper etc. because this is the crap your going to be subjected to. Scott Brown ever the professional. Lennon's little follower.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Assuming pre-season goes well, I'd love to have these c***s at Fir Park on the first day of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 In city and seen a pub in Merchant city called Bar 91 made me smile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxx Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 If I was Kieth Lasley I would be giving my lawyer a call . Brown of all people should keep his mouth firmly shut but i guess thats not the celtic way ,all from the guy that put himself out for the best part of three months while trying to take out a killmarnock player at rugby park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ankles Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Fucking knob jockey .how many times has that twat been booked for bad tackles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Celtic have complained to the BBC about the accusations of sectarian singing at the cup final according to the Sun; Furious Celtic chiefs last night asked the BBC to explain why Rob McLean and Pat Nevin accused their fans of chanting sectarian songs at the Scottish Cup final. More than 800 Hoops fans have complained to the Beeb about the pair's claims, made live on air. And now the club has demanded an explanation for Saturday's comments. At half-time, presenter McLean said: "Celtic supporters have been singing some sectarian songs during the first half." Pundit Nevin said: "I'm going to mention it every time I hear it. Let's embarrass these teams." But Celtic are adamant their supporters did NOT sing any bigoted songs. Last night a club spokesman said: "We've raised the matter with BBC Scotland and are awaiting their response." A Beeb spokesman said: "Celtic have been in touch seeking clarification, as have several hundred fans. We will be responding to them." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan09 Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 HAHA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn_Broomfield Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Absolutely pathetic human beings. If it's not Sectarian, the it definitely breached the Terrorism Act. So either way, they should be fucked. Anti-British racists and anti-CoS bigots. The Green Brigade are also anti-semitic too, but they probably don't realise that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 imagine them having the brass neck to complain to the bbc we all know they sign sectarian songs c***s.well said pat nevin though your still a wee fud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplewell Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 why did a celtic fan try to spit on me That happened to me too, and im in fuck1ng Canada! Seriously cannot get away with wearing a well top anywhere these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotts Well Fan Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Why dont we start an internet campaign and complain to FARE about their singing?. It worked for them against the h**s. Fucking scum of the earth and Brown is a fucking ugly incompetent twat :wank: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 (edited) The club should insist that the SFA charge Brown for bringing the game into disrespute. Can imagine the outcry if the shoe had been on the other foot? just read McCall's reply to Brown in one of today papers. Well said our manager. Brown is an embarrassment. Edited May 24, 2011 by Orinoco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 A week down the line am perhaps able to view it more objectively, and while I am bitterly disappionted to lose a final, just like 2005 CIS, we were never really in it tbh. Rather that than a dodgy unlucky loss. We'll pick ourselves up, brush ourselves down and get on with it because we have nothing to be ashamed off:- we are a provincial club who continue to punch above our weight and have been more successful than Clubs with far greater resources than ourselves. Motherwell FC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_tony Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Absolutely pathetic human beings. If it's not Sectarian, the it definitely breached the Terrorism Act. So either way, they should be fucked. Anti-British racists and anti-CoS bigots. The Green Brigade are also anti-semitic too, but they probably don't realise that. The thing is, Celtic genuinely won't admit that they have a problem. They see those songs as being a form of political protest, not sectarian behaviour. The Scottish Government's stats on the Old Firm's action to sectarian behaviour amongst their own fans speaks for itself. In the last couple of years, Rangers have handed out 500 bans to people identified as singing songs or making sectarian remarks. Celtic have handed out 2. I have absolutely no love for either side of the Old Firm, but at least one lot can be seen to be trying to do something about their fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC_MKI Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 The problem is that these 'IRA/Republican' songs that Celtic fans sing are NOT sectarian, under religious grounds, whether you like or dislike them. As long as people try to attack such songs as 'sectarian' then they don't have a leg to stand on because all Celtic FC need say is "okay then, explain how such songs fall into the sectarian, under religious grounds, cateogry?" and that is the debate over. Celtic's PR department is top notch and they know full well that the singing of such anthems cannot reasonably bring accusations of 'sectarian chanting, under religious grounds' and a large number of their supporters are also fully aware of this. If you really want to take the fight to Celtic over what their fans sing then the first thing to do is get the facts straight. Their supporters sing songs that are totally inappropriate for football grounds and promote an organisation that is recognised within the United Kingdom as a terrorist organisation. Challenge them on those grounds and you might find yourself with a stronger case. IRA songs are NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING to do with religion and cannot in anyway be classed in the same bracket as 'The Billy Boys' when it comes to 'religious sectarianism', but the problem is that so few people can actually understand this. Too many people are scared to venture beyond this "The Old Firm are as bad as each other and have identical problems" stance. In reality both are completely different and raise completely different issues with the songs they sing and I've tried to explain this to numerous amounts of people who moan and greet about the 'Billy Boys' being outlawed and forbidden whilst IRA promoting songs are not, but it seems that some people in the West of Scotland just cannot accept, or understand this. You want to fight Celtic and win? Well get your facts straight first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albi1886 Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 What's the 'Billy boys' about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 "Up to our knees in f****n blood", Hmmmm f****n is a political term is it not? Again the Celtic PR machine has labelled the term as derogatory to Catholics whereas Fenianism is also political. Splitting hairs of course but so is claiming songs about the IRA are not sectarian. Let them argue the finer points, they are both the same when it comes down to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Completely agree fatcalf, hence the question. Putting spin on something to suit your agenda is a convenience for both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Steelman Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Still find it funny when you point out the mixed religous background of the founding fathers of the IRA. Just like the fact that king billy hated the Scots as well as catholics. Must be murder fitting all this rubbish into the life of an old firm fan's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I watched a bit of a programme called the History of Ireland and it is indeed a very mixed up tale, like Wolfe Tone being Protestant but revered in Republican circles for example, or defeated Royalists from England joining forces with revolting Catholics in Ireland. (By revolting I mean Catholics rising up in revolt by the way, just in case you thought......never mind ) I don't begin to understand it, indeed I found myself winding back to listen to parts again it was so confusing. How many could attempt to make head or tail of it now is beyond me. But they are "Twa cheeks of the same erse" and that's all we need to bother with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsMFC Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Great post MJC, someone in Scotland who understands the difference between political & sectarian, very rare! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 The problem is that these 'IRA/Republican' songs that Celtic fans sing are NOT sectarian, under religious grounds, whether you like or dislike them. As long as people try to attack such songs as 'sectarian' then they don't have a leg to stand on because all Celtic FC need say is "okay then, explain how such songs fall into the sectarian, under religious grounds, cateogry?" and that is the debate over. Celtic's PR department is top notch and they know full well that the singing of such anthems cannot reasonably bring accusations of 'sectarian chanting, under religious grounds' and a large number of their supporters are also fully aware of this. If you really want to take the fight to Celtic over what their fans sing then the first thing to do is get the facts straight. Their supporters sing songs that are totally inappropriate for football grounds and promote an organisation that is recognised within the United Kingdom as a terrorist organisation. Challenge them on those grounds and you might find yourself with a stronger case. IRA songs are NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING to do with religion and cannot in anyway be classed in the same bracket as 'The Billy Boys' when it comes to 'religious sectarianism', but the problem is that so few people can actually understand this. Too many people are scared to venture beyond this "The Old Firm are as bad as each other and have identical problems" stance. In reality both are completely different and raise completely different issues with the songs they sing and I've tried to explain this to numerous amounts of people who moan and greet about the 'Billy Boys' being outlawed and forbidden whilst IRA promoting songs are not, but it seems that some people in the West of Scotland just cannot accept, or understand this. You want to fight Celtic and win? Well get your facts straight first! gerard murphy - the year of the disapearnaces they managed to half the protestant population of the RoI in about 20 years. sounds like ethnic cleansing to me. our you can read about the kingsmill massacre where they stopped a van full of catholics and protestants going home from nightshift and proceeded to let the catholics go and murder the protestants. seems a bit sectarian if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigshinyhead Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Sectarianism doesn't necessarily have to apply to religion though. It refers to intolerance between subdivisions of a group. In this case it is generally used to refer to intolerance between Catholics and Protestants (subdivisions of christianity) but it could easily be applied to a Celtic fan hating all Rangers fans or vice versa as you could easily argue that these are subdivisions of all Scottish fitba' fans. In saying that though, MJC is spot on. Chanting IRA songs is no different from Muslim extremists openly supporting Al Qaeda and you should be doused in petrol and burned for doing so. Probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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