StipeIsGod Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 1. Celtic 2. Rangers 3. Hearts 4. Dundee United 5. Hibs 6. Caley 7. Killie 8. Aberdeen 9. Dunfermline 10. Motherwell 11. St Johnstone 12. St Mirren For the first time in years, I have a bad feeling about next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 1. Celtic 2. Rangers 3. Hearts 4. D Utd 5. Hibs 6. Aberdeen 7. ICT 8. Killie 9. Motherwell 10. Dunfermline 11. St Mirren 12. St Johnstone. Only definite prediction from me is that we are in for another SPL season of mediocre (at best) football and crowds continuing to fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan09 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 I cant see anything positive fior us next season, or league form in the latter end of last season was nothing less than shocking. After beating celtic at Fir Park we slumped to two appalling defeats to ICT and Killie and from then on in, the Cup run apart, the only decent performace was the comeback against Hearts. We shipped 17 goals in the last 5 games including the Cup Final. We haven't strengthened anywhere we've just replaced Sutton with Higdon. Frankly, I think we'll struggle and I reckon relegation could be a threeway battle between us, St Mirren and Killie. Couldn't give a toss which of the bigots wins it but think it'll still be Hearts and Dundee United in the Europa places. get a fucking grip man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Is Harkins to Killie happening? The guy is good, but goes missing for big chunks of games. Capable of great, great play, but terribly inconsistent. Deal agreed, medical on Tuesday as he is on holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell89 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Poor forum at the end was mostly down to fatigue, you could see it in the players, such a long season and by then pretty much nothing to play for. With no European games focus will be on the league and I think top 6 a minimum this season, the other sides in the SPL are all there for the taken and we do have some really technically good players. With McCall saying he will strengthing areas of the squad for competition I can only think that we will do better this season, I think 4th behind Hearts or who knows if we build some decent momentum up a title challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 I think it all depends on if we can keep Jennings and get another midfielder and striker in. According to McCall's e-mail to us he's got a few irons in the fire and the players seem focussed on bettering 6th spot and of course we can. I think 5th and a reasonablly good season ahead. . St.Mirren.Killie and Dunfermline will fight it out for relegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeboy Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 My predictions for the league are: 1. Celtic 2. Rangers 3. Hearts 4. Dundee United 5. Motherwell 6. Inverness Caley Thistle 7. Aberdeen 8. Hibs 9. Kilmarnock 10. Dunfermline 11. St. Mirren The fact our budget hasn't been cut and we have the nucleus of a good team in place will go in our favour, as Dundee United can't sign anyone until somebody leaves and Aberdeen and Hibs have big rebuilding jobs on their hands. As for the cups, my gut feeling is we will reach the semi-final of the League Cup, only to be beaten by one half of the Old Firm and we will get knocked out of the Scottish Cup at the first hurdle by an SPL team of similar or slightly lower reputation. I think Celtic will win the league, as Jay said I don't think McCoist has enough to win the league in his first season. I don't think Rangers will be able to spend in the way some are suggesting. If Celtic can stop leaking silly goals I think they will win the league. If Hearts can gel their team quick enough they should walk third place, I think they'll be the only provincial club with competition for places this year. I think it will be between us and Dundee United for fourth, depending on the Goodwillie situation and who be bring in. As much as I can't see us being consistent and high quality next year, I can't see the likes of Hibs or Aberdeen doing much. I think Inverness are a shoe in for top six. Perhaps this is wishful thinking but I think Aberdeen will struggle. Other than his "contacts" down south who may get him one or two decent players on loan, I think he will struggle to build a team. His success both at Scotland and us was largely down to him using the resources he already had. I also can't see Calderwood turning the corner and I think O'Connor will flop and will be lucky to hit double figures. Kilmarnock will struggle without Eremenko and Bryson, Dunfermline and St. Mirren will be made safe by St Johnstone, I think after promotion and a couple of good seasons, they will run out of steam, like Accies did last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLip69 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Poor forum at the end was mostly down to fatigue, you could see it in the players, such a long season and by then pretty much nothing to play for. With no European games focus will be on the league and I think top 6 a minimum this season, the other sides in the SPL are all there for the taken and we do have some really technically good players. With McCall saying he will strengthing areas of the squad for competition I can only think that we will do better this season, I think 4th behind Hearts or who knows if we build some decent momentum up a title challenge A Cup Final isn't much to play for? Come on man, ffs we should have had players champing at the but to get picked for the final, instead we were going through the motions and that was the attitide we took into the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadywellToi Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 After beating celtic at Fir Park we slumped to two appalling defeats to ICT and Killie and from then on in, the Cup run apart, the only decent performace was the comeback against Hearts. From what I understand, the defeat in Inverness was woeful, however the only appalling thing about the Killie game is they scored from their 1 attack after we camped in their half completely unjust and against the run of play. I'd suggest were you at the game caller, but I know you weren't. Can't believe some of the doom and gloom on here. 3 Europa's in a row, 2 top 6's, Cup Final and diddy cup semi, every other team in the league cutting their cloth, our budget maintained, manager performing above average in transfer market so far, team maturing together and healthy bank balance. I know its a Scottish trait to tend towards pessimism, but come on tae fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLip69 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 From what I understand, the defeat in Inverness was woeful, however the only appalling thing about the Killie game is they scored from their 1 attack after we camped in their half completely unjust and against the run of play. I'd suggest were you at the game caller, but I know you weren't. Can't believe some of the doom and gloom on here. 3 Europa's in a row, 2 top 6's, Cup Final and diddy cup semi, every other team in the league cutting their cloth, our budget maintained, manager performing above average in transfer market so far, team maturing together and healthy bank balance. I know its a Scottish trait to tend towards pessimism, but come on tae fuck. Hardly describes the 3-1 scoreline but I'll take your word for it, a friend who was there said we were fine first half and shite the second. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadywellToi Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Hardly describes the 3-1 scoreline but I'll take your word for it, a friend who was there said we were fine first half and shite the second. I My bad, forgot about the away fixture, I was referring to the mideweek one at FP, apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsMFC Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 1.Celtic 2.Rangers 3.Hearts 4.Motherwell 5.Dundee Utd 6.ICT 7.Killie 8.Hibs 9.St Johnstone 10.Aberdeen 11.St Mirren 12Dumfermline Another good run in both cups and a win over Rangers and/or Celtic would do me fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweed Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 1. Celtic 2. Rangers 3. Hearts 4. Hibernian 5. Dundee Utd 6. Inverness 7. Motherwell 8. Aberdeen 9. St Mirren 10. Dunfermline 11. St Johnstone 12. Kilmarnock Really is a bit early to make a decisive punt but for right now I'll go with this. Celtic will beat Rangers. In my view they have a slightly better squad and a fiiter squad. They dropped four home points to Inverness and Dundee Utd back in November last year from winning positions because Lennon thought they had the games won. Duly lost goals at the death and the points went abegging. Smith doesn't make mistakes like that in the other side of the city. Now Celtic have the more experienced manager and I expect them to utilise that. Also I see their team remaining more settled and as such can see them hitting the ground running. Hearts only had Dundee United as challengers last year. However 2011 has been awful for them. I think having had 3rd sewn up and St Johnstone papping them out the cup in January they ended up without a fat lot to play for and suffered as a result. If they start poorly I can see their fans getting nervous and given their first game is at Ibrox, there is a chance their game with us in fixture round 3 could make or break their season. Dundee Utd challenged well last year but there is no doubt in my mind they will go backwards. Colin Calderwood is a good manager however he has not really shown it at Hibs yet. Over the summer he has the chance to build his own team and if he can keep Gary O'Connor fit that is their goals problem sorted. Add in some of their youngsters have a year's experience I can see them having a decent season and jumping United. I think Aberdeen, Inverness and us will be all very close. By the time the season starts we will all have a decent SPL squad. Brown is a wily old fox and as much as I hate him he will improve Aberdeen. Inverness are robust and difficult to beat and have a proven SPL goal scorer so I think they will do all right. I think we will have a season similar to last. We have an intensity about us and some good solid SPL players. Our youngsters, a bit like Hibs, will have another year in them and our number of games will have reduced. St Mirren are the one team in the bottom four who look to have improved. Though like Hibs and O'Connor they need to keep Stephen Thompson fit. If not they'll go down a couple of places. Dunfermline have their first two games at home courtesy of this ridiculous friendly ruling with the Old FIrm and if they can get a good start momentum is a powerful ally and you can see them getting belief instilled in them. St Johnstone are toothless and I just can't see where the goals are coming from and I feel Kilmarnock minus their four best players will just not recover. And I think Kenny Shiels could be their Maurice Malpas. And for me that is why they'll be going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 I predict we won't make it through the first week of the season before someone says we are a) punching above our weight or b) riding the Motherwell roller coaster Far too early to make a prediction on the season when we are so far away from the transfer window closing. 10th or better will be just fine, but lets see how the squads line up first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Craig Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 1 - Celtic 2 - Rangers 3 - Hearts 4 - Motherwell 5 - Dundee Utd 6 - ICT ------------------------- 7 - Dunfermline 8 - Aberdeen 9 - Hibernian 10 - St Johnstone 11 - Kilmarnock 12 - St Mirren ( R ) --------------------------- 1 - Raith Rovers ( C ) League Cup - ICT (Big Tel deserves some success up North) Scottish Cup - Motherwell I Hope Think the Shellik will win the league. Lennon has a season under his belt in charge whereas inexperience will cost McCoist who will flounder by March, out the cups and the league and will end up getting the sack. Hearts will continue to be the 'third force' in the SPL but it won't be as easy as that suggests. I think Hearts, Dundee Utd and ourselves will be pretty close come May with us taking points off each other and the OF. If we manage to keep Jenno, that will be 6 or 7 first names on the team sheet who have been through the ups and downs of last season. Same for the other Top Six spot. You'll not get a fag paper between ICT, Dunfermline, Hibs and Aberdeen. I also think that Dunfermline will do that trick of newly promoted sides and stay up comfortably. There is little difference between the top of Division 1 and the bottom of the SPL. Bottom three will consist of St Johnstone, Killie and St Midden and the table I've put up is how I hope it finishes. St Johnstone were hopeless in front of goal and will shop a shed load of goals. Killie have pretty much lost their first team and the leadership of big MIxu. I don't see Shiels being the answer. Finally, St Mirren and Danny Lennon will get found out, despite the signings and I hope they slip out the SPL, never to return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplewell Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 1. Celtic 2. Rangers 3. Hearts 4. Dundee utd 5. Motherwell 6. ICT 7. Hibs 8. Killmarnock 9. Dunfermline 10. Aberdeen 11. St. Johnstone 12. St. Mirren Raith for promotion Hearts for the scottish cup Us for the league cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-in-Oz Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Lot of people predicting a top 6 finish for Motherwell. Seems a bit premature considering so far we have signed a like for like striker, released a few players & not brought anyone in to replace them. Been a few exciting prospects branded about but until they put pen to paper then don't count on anything as the Grella saga should prove. Hopeful of a good season but until the signing window closes i have no idea what kind of season we will have. And what's with the we will do well in the cups? Just coz we had 2 good cup runs last season? We won the cup in '91 and done absolutely hee haw until the diddy cup in 2005 and then again hee haw til last season and we had better teams then than we do now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxywell Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Lot of people predicting a top 6 finish for Motherwell. Seems a bit premature considering so far we have signed a like for like striker, released a few players & not brought anyone in to replace them. Been a few exciting prospects branded about but until they put pen to paper then don't count on anything as the Grella saga should prove. Hopeful of a good season but until the signing window closes i have no idea what kind of season we will have. And what's with the we will do well in the cups? Just coz we had 2 good cup runs last season? We won the cup in '91 and done absolutely hee haw until the diddy cup in 2005 and then again hee haw til last season and we had better teams then than we do now. I was basing my predictions on where i think teams will be when the season starts.If we went in with the team we have just now then relegation would be a serious possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadywellToi Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 If we went in with the team we have just now then relegation would be a serious possibility. Absolute nonsense. So we pretty much equal our league placing from the 09-10 season, haven't really lost integral players as yet, had two managerial upheavals running at Xmas (you would think we'd avoid that next year), we're maintaining our playing budget when everyone else's is decimated with a team growing and gelling together and a manager increasing his knowledge of the opposition and his teams capabilities. What precedent or reasonable argument can you have to suggest relegation is on the cards with a team from the following at present: ---------------------- Randolph -------------------------- Saunders - Hutchinson - Craigan - Hammell -- Hateley ----------- Forbes ---------- Lasley -- ------- Humphrey -------------------- Murphy ------- ------------------------ Higdon -------------------------- I think many overlook if almost everyone else in the SPL (gruesome twosome and Hearts - I don't know how, exempt) is losing around £400k from their wage pool it means they can't attract anyone of any quality ..... and that's our opposition. You're giving too much respect to some of the other pish in this league and how they will perform. However don't let the fact its mid June and there's still 2 months till the transfer window closes get in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 If we went in with the team we have just now then relegation would be a serious possibility. Have a look at some of the other squads out there. Ours is pretty strong in comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StipeIsGod Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 We do in theory have a decent squad, and I would assume that (if he goes) Jennings will be replaced very decently. I have a feeling that something is lined up for there. I based my lower half Well prediction on nowt bar pessimism and my bad feeling that we are "due" a disappointing season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 However don't let the fact its mid June and there's still 2 months till the transfer window closes get in the way. Its the fact that its only mid-June that is making me hesitant at being too sure of where most teams will finish. Potentially much wheeling and dealing to be done. Given the finances of most, most likely a list as long as your arm of EPL youngsters on loan in the last couple of days in August. There are other factors too like a change of manager that can de-rail a side for a spell, a January firesale or perhaps most significant if teams are carrying reduced squads, a spate of injuries. I suspct there will be very little between 4th and 10th next season but at the monent I'd hazard a guess at..... 1st: Celtic 2nd: Rangers 3rd: Hearts 4th: Dundee Utd 5th: Motherwell 6th: Kilmarnock 7th: Aberdeen 8th: Hibernian 9th: Inverness 10th: St Johnstone 11th: St Mirren 12th: Dunfermline League Cup: Rangers Scottish Cup: Celtic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 ---------------------- Randolph -------------------------- Saunders - Hutchinson - Craigan - Hammell -- Hateley ----------- Forbes ---------- Lasley -- ------- Humphrey -------------------- Murphy ------- ------------------------ Higdon -------------------------- Oh-oh! We'd be fucked in that case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlukemurray Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Good thread this one, it is interesting to see all the predictions of who will finish where. I'll reserve judgement until closer to the start of the season. For now I would say Motherwell would be doing very well to finish in the top 6. We need more players, hopefully a couple with experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 We need more players, hopefully a couple with experience. Dinna talk pish! We need to PLAY MORE KIDS! Seriously though, I couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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