nethertonwellfan Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Any fan that moans about a player GIRUY to opposition fans should stop being so sensitive. Most of them get abuse for 90 minutes and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. In fact I find it quite funny. As for Lennon celebrating well that doesn't bother me either. Look at the way Craigan celebrates Motherwell's important wins with his vein popping celebrations. People need to lighten up a wee bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonwellfan Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Las and Jennings both received yellow cards. Are you suggesting than one or both of them should have seen red? Not necessarily but they should have received yellow cards before the ones they got. If they got them that doesn't mean they would have committed the fouls that eventually got them their yellow cards. After they received their yellow cards they seemed to calm down a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Agree partly with that. Players celebrating goals has never really bothered me. Part of the game (one of the best parts) and to use your example Craigan has a right to be on the pitch as he does it. I fail to see what Lennon is doing on the pitch as he seems to be on there at the drop of a hat. Celebrate it how he sees fit. It is his decision if he wants to be the centre of attention/controversy especially after last season but he should never cross that white line during the 90 mins, whether it being challenging a decision, celebrating a goal, or squaring up to an opposition player. As has been said before, smoke and mirrors to mask the fact he is just not cutting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonwellfan Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Agree partly with that. Players celebrating goals has never really bothered me. Part of the game (one of the best parts) and to use your example Craigan has a right to be on the pitch as he does it. I fail to see what Lennon is doing on the pitch as he seems to be on there at the drop of a hat. Celebrate it how he sees fit. It is his decision if he wants to be the centre of attention/controversy especially after last season but he should never cross that white line during the 90 mins, whether it being challenging a decision, celebrating a goal, or squaring up to an opposition player. As has been said before, smoke and mirrors to mask the fact he is just not cutting it. I owe you an apology Finlay as I thought you were talking about celebrations post match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottW1886 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Celtic fan on the (un)Real Radio phone in was complaining about the number of "horrendous" and "two footed" tackles by Motherwell players yesterday - can anyone recall these? Burley on ESPN seemed to bang on relentlessly about Jennings' tackle on Commons where he seemed to win the ball to me, and then go on about Jennings again on Commons(?) and how he had "raked his studs down the achilles" when in actual fact he hit the side of Commons' foot. And Derek Rae on Twitter seemed to suggest that Motherwell got away with a lot yesterday. So, did this happen and I just have Claret & Amber glasses on?! And "Paddy McCourt's f****n army" - is this term acceptable now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 And "Paddy McCourt's f****n army" - is this term acceptable now? I've laughably seen it said that Celtic fans using this phrase is supposed to be like black people using the 'N' word. Basically, if they use it, it's okay. If anyone else uses it, it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulliemfc1 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) are uz sure it wasnt pat mcCourts green army? sounded like that to me if am wrong its fucking disgraceful if thats what they were singing Edited November 7, 2011 by Wulliemfc1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I owe you an apology Finlay as I thought you were talking about celebrations post match. Not at all mate. McCall is no stranger to going on the park after a game. I quite like that and I have never had a problem with any manager or coach doing it. During the 90 mins though I think it is a bit arrogant. Bit different but does anyone remember the 0-5 pumping we got off Rangers last season and the celebrations on the Rangers bench when their fifth went in? I recall the bench going loopy and Neil Alexander jumping and straddling a member of the backroom staff. Celebrated like a last minute goal in a 0-1 win. Just totally OTT....but thats the OF for you. Very rarely gracious in defeat or victory and that is just their officials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonwellfan Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Celtic fan on the (un)Real Radio phone in was complaining about the number of "horrendous" and "two footed" tackles by Motherwell players yesterday - can anyone recall these? Burley on ESPN seemed to bang on relentlessly about Jennings' tackle on Commons where he seemed to win the ball to me, and then go on about Jennings again on Commons(?) and how he had "raked his studs down the achilles" when in actual fact he hit the side of Commons' foot. And Derek Rae on Twitter seemed to suggest that Motherwell got away with a lot yesterday. So, did this happen and I just have Claret & Amber glasses on?! And "Paddy McCourt's f****n army" - is this term acceptable now? I certainly though Lasley and Jennings should have been booked before they eventually did. Only my opinion though and I have watched it back a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 are uz sure it wasnt pat mcCourts green army? sounded like that to me if am wrong its fucking disgraceful if thats what they were singing I was pretty sure it sounded like the f word army. Certainly sounded like the majority of the south stand singing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottW1886 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 are uz sure it wasnt pat mcCourts green army? sounded like that to me if am wrong its fucking disgraceful if thats what they were singing Definitely not Green army - had the "pleasure" of it being sung a few feet in front of me after the game and then right outside the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottW1886 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I certainly though Lasley and Jennings should have been booked before they eventually did. Only my opinion though and I have watched it back a few times. But that doesn't necessarily mean that any challenges were over the top or "horrendous" which seems to be the general perception..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cakes Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 are uz sure it wasnt pat mcCourts green army? sounded like that to me if am wrong its fucking disgraceful if thats what they were singing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzIgqmVqaVw They also have banners, t-shirts, the lot. Twats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulliemfc1 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 just shows you the mentality of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carluke71 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 On a positive note -according to the Twitter on the main website the attendance for yesterday was up 2633 up on the same game last year.But best of all 500 more paying Well fans are included in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulliemfc1 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 fir park holds 13,742 the attendance was 10,440 where was the 3000 odd empty seats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 The second Celtic goal was offside. Hooper ran into an offside position on the 6-yard box, right in front of Randolph, before McCourt made the pass to Stokes and was still there when the pass was made to Stokes. He should have been flagged offside at that point. Hooper was still in that offside position and no Motherwell player ever got behind him when Stokes squared the ball to him to score. Even under the 'revised' offside rules he was offiside in both phases of the play. Actually it is no an offence to be in an offside position like this. At the point of McCourt playing the ball to Stokes, Hooper was not offside as he was not/did not... 1. interfering with play 2. interfering with an opponent 3. gaining an advantage of being in that position The fact is, when Stokes received the ball he was not officially interfering with play - when he received the ball from Stokes, he was behind the ball - hence being onside. Sadly, I firmly believe he gained an advantage and he did, but in the Laws of the Game he did not (set out by the Home Nations and FIFA). As the ball from Stokes was a different phase than the ball from McCourt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Stokes hits the ball forward to hooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Stokes hits the ball forward to hooper 11. Offside It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position. 11.1 A player is in an offside position if: He is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent Hooper is never in front of the ball when Stokes plays the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 The fact that it's still being debated after review of the footage shows just what a useless rule it is. How do they expect a linesman to instantly assess all these factors? It was difficult enough having to keep one eye on the passer and one eye on the position of the recipient as the ball was played - especially if there was 20 or 30 yards between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Craig Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Stokes hits the ball forward to hooper Tbh, I thought it was hit square. But this rule of "Phases of Play" is stupid. You're either offside or onside. If you have a jersey on, your interfering with play. Stupid rules! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Celtic fan on the (un)Real Radio phone in was complaining about the number of "horrendous" and "two footed" tackles by Motherwell players yesterday - can anyone recall these? Burley on ESPN seemed to bang on relentlessly about Jennings' tackle on Commons where he seemed to win the ball to me, and then go on about Jennings again on Commons(?) and how he had "raked his studs down the achilles" when in actual fact he hit the side of Commons' foot. And Derek Rae on Twitter seemed to suggest that Motherwell got away with a lot yesterday. So, did this happen and I just have Claret & Amber glasses on?! And "Paddy McCourt's f****n army" - is this term acceptable now? There were no two footed challenges nor over the top. There were what you would call professional fouls that should have seen yellow cards shown that didn't though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Stokes hits the ball forward to hooper courtesy of the twitter debate on the same subject he does indeed pass the ball forward/d square? but hooper is not advanced of him or the ball ( in the same phase) until after the pass is made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickoza Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Think the most disappointing aspect of that pic is we had so many players drawn to the left of the box and they still scored! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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