Andy_P Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 i've never quite worked out hpw they decide home and away games post split. Is there a defined procedure? Whether you could call it a defined procedure I don't know but there was talk in the past that your placing from the previous season - that being whether you were top six or bottom has a bearing on what you might get this year. If the same six teams from last season finished top six then I'm sure I've heard it said that, that allows them to balance out the fixtures so you get 19 home and 19 away. It's when one or more of the teams differ then that's where you start getting the imbalance of some getting 20 home games and others 18. Obviously as Stu says though the very first fixture to be scheduled is the last Old Firm game and everything else thereafter is worked around that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weesacs Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 If the same six teams from last season finished top six then I'm sure I've heard it said that, that allows them to balance out the fixtures so you get 19 home and 19 away. It's when one or more of the teams differ then that's where you start getting the imbalance of some getting 20 home games and others 18. St J are going to wreck it this year, they will be in there instead of Killie (if things go who they were predicted!) By the split - we will have played 16 home, 17 away We "should" be due Celtic home, Rangers away, St J home, Hearts away, United home - i would be very happy with that!!! Maybe this year with the fact the league has gone, we will see Rangers and Celtic not get their 19/19 split - they are the only ones to ever get this guranteed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weesacs Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 should also have mentioned............... IF we finish second, with the extra revenue that brings £900k, does that mean we can count this as a "player sale" and not actually have to sell anyone? we've heard recently that there is a profit warning as we havent sold anyone for a few seasons now - surely this would go a long way to help with that!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I am sure I read somewhere that the club finishing 2nd in the SPL gets £1.5 million while the club finishing 3rd gets £900K so 2nd spot is well worth aiming at. Everyone's assuming Rangers will win their remaining fixtures but as was evident on Saturday against Hearts and a fortnight ago against Kilmarnock that is by no means a given and we play them at FP shortly. I we could win that one..... Also if we finished 2nd we would be in line for a fair bit of cash from the Champions League excluding any gate monies etc. from games. And even if we fell at the first hurdle of the Champions League we would still go into the Europa League final qualifier for the group stages as a seeded team so more monies to be made that way too - remember if we'd beaten BK Odense we'd have gone into the group stages of the Europa League and been guaranteed a minimum of £2M for that. Anyway you cut it, if we do manage to get second in the SPL then the club stands to get a significant amount of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-in-Oz Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Whether you could call it a defined procedure I don't know but there was talk in the past that your placing from the previous season - that being whether you were top six or bottom has a bearing on what you might get this year. If the same six teams from last season finished top six then I'm sure I've heard it said that, that allows them to balance out the fixtures so you get 19 home and 19 away. It's when one or more of the teams differ then that's where you start getting the imbalance of some getting 20 home games and others 18. Obviously as Stu says though the very first fixture to be scheduled is the last Old Firm game and everything else thereafter is worked around that. This being the case should it not be St Johnstone & Killie who end up only getting 18 home games as they are the ones who finished different than predicted? If you are expected to finish in one half of the split & you do end up finishing there then would seem a bit unfair that you are punished due to other teams performing better/worse than predicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonwellfan Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Does anyone know how much money you get for just getting in to the qualifying round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 This being the case should it not be St Johnstone & Killie who end up only getting 18 home games as they are the ones who finished different than predicted? If you are expected to finish in one half of the split & you do end up finishing there then would seem a bit unfair that you are punished due to other teams performing better/worse than predicted. u would think so but the SPL will work it out in the most illogical fashion possible, that's about the only guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Does anyone know how much money you get for just getting in to the qualifying round? Going by the 2010/11 season (all in Euros) - cannot find this seasons! If we enter the 3rd Quals and go out - we'll get 130K If Celtic go out in the 3rd Qual they would get 130K plus 200K Euro - so 430K If we enter the 3rd Quals and qualify for the playoffs we'll get £2.1m If Celtic qualify for the Playoffs they wull also get £2.1m (all clubs in the playoffs get this amount) We would then receive 90K for entering the Europa League Playoff - Then another £90K (I think if reading this right) if knocked out. If we make it to the (Europa) Group Stages then 640K for being there + 60K for every completed match (so £360K) = 1m 140K per win and 90K per draw in the group stages. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimH Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Assuming Rangers make it until the end of the month - sombreros, beach balls and inflatables galore on the 31st? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Assuming Rangers make it until the end of the month - sombreros, beach balls and inflatables galore on the 31st? I would be bitterly disappointed if this wasn't the case. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ankles Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Assuming Rangers make it until the end of the month - sombreros, beach balls and inflatables galore on the 31st? Never thought of this .. could be epic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigshinyhead Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I usually stay away from old firm games at Fir Park but the GIRFUY potential for this game is too massive to resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Has to be a sell out this game. Could be mental on and off the park. £2m on the go if we can somehow get through the qualifier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunn Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 How much money would we get for finishing 2nd in the league? I'm sure I've read somewhere that theres a big jump from 2nd to 3rd in the prize money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 How much money would we get for finishing 2nd in the league? I'm sure I've read somewhere that theres a big jump from 2nd to 3rd in the prize money. Diff between 2nd and 3rd is £900k! Given that we dont budget for finishing 3rd, to get second would represent a massive windfall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunn Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Diff between 2nd and 3rd is £900k! Given that we dont budget for finishing 3rd, to get second would represent a massive windfall! Do you know the break down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickoza Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 March 31st could be so massive in the chase. Are Rangers due to come to Fir Park a third time? You can imagine the wheels in motion to think of an excuse that they don't have to........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunnyMFC Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Either way I will be very pleased if we make it into the Europa league. Would be a great achievement even more spectacular if we get into the CL obviously but hopefully the players keep their feet on the ground there is still a lot of work to do but I'm sure the gaffer will keep them focused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roly Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Do you know the break down? Breakdown in statistical terms: 1st - 4% + 13% = 17% 2nd - 4% + 11% = 15% 3rd - 4% + 5.5% = 9.5% 4th - 4% + 4.5% = 8.5% 5th - 4% + 4.0% = 8.0% 6th - 4% + 3.5% = 7.5% 7th - 4% + 3.0% = 7.0% 8th - 4% + 2.5% = 6.5% 9th - 4% + 2.0% = 6.0% 10th - 4% + 1.5% = 5.5% 11th - 4% + 1.0% = 5.0% 12th - 4% + 0.5% = 4.5% Last seasons split of prize money: Rangers......... £2,975,000 Celtic............... £2,625,000 Hearts............. £1,662,500 Dundee Utd... £1,487,500 Kilmarnock..... £1,400,000 Motherwell...... £1,312,250 Inverness........ £1,225,000 St Johnstone.. £1,137,500 Aberdeen........ £1,050,000 Hibs................. £962,500 St Mirren.......... £875,000 Hamilton......... £787,500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 So do Rangers have to pay back the prize money they won by cheating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-in-Oz Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Breakdown in statistical terms: 1st - 4% + 13% = 17% 2nd - 4% + 11% = 15% 3rd - 4% + 5.5% = 9.5% 4th - 4% + 4.5% = 8.5% 5th - 4% + 4.0% = 8.0% 6th - 4% + 3.5% = 7.5% 7th - 4% + 3.0% = 7.0% 8th - 4% + 2.5% = 6.5% 9th - 4% + 2.0% = 6.0% 10th - 4% + 1.5% = 5.5% 11th - 4% + 1.0% = 5.0% 12th - 4% + 0.5% = 4.5% Last seasons split of prize money: Rangers......... £2,975,000 Celtic............... £2,625,000 Hearts............. £1,662,500 Dundee Utd... £1,487,500 Kilmarnock..... £1,400,000 Motherwell...... £1,312,250 Inverness........ £1,225,000 St Johnstone.. £1,137,500 Aberdeen........ £1,050,000 Hibs................. £962,500 St Mirren.......... £875,000 Hamilton......... £787,500 Right there is the all the proof you need to see how the old firm have carved the pot to suit themselves. They know they are going to finish 1st & 2nd and thereby only having a 2% difference in their prize money but then it drops a massive 5.5% for finishing 3rd. How can they justify such a difference between 2nd & 3rd when the rest of the league has no more than a 2% difference. You can guarantee if one of them was finishing 3rd regularly that 5.5% difference wouldn't be long in being abolished. Then they bitch & complain that there is no competition in Scottish football :wank: Just on a side note what part of the above table supports the view that we need a strong old firm for Scottish football to survive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcC Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Is there a chance to get into the Championsleague even if we finish on 3rd. spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superwell87 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Yes, beacuse Rangers aren't eligible for europe next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 But the financial difference would make one hell of an impact on our finances in positive terms, and a negative one on Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Agree Fatcalf....................2nd place is all about the money. 3rd place is all about champions league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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