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Sorry everyone. The stadium thing is just an idea / vision / dream. I would - personally - not be keen on a soulless 8000 seater.

Personally, I'm getting a bit tired of this "soulless" argument. Soul comes from the people who fill a stadium, not from the architect's plans. Fill any stadium with 5000 'Well fans every other week and put a team on the park that gives them something to shout about, and it'll have soul aplenty.

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Personally, I'm getting a bit tired of this "soulless" argument. Soul comes from the people who fill a stadium, not from the architect's plans.

 

So moving to all-seaters didn't affect the atmosphere in the grounds in your opinion?

 

While it may a romantic notion to attribute 'soul' to a building, there are certainly grounds with character that are more conducive to an enjoyable experience. You take the same crowd from an old gig at The Apollo and stick them in the SEC, you are not going to have the same atmosphere.

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So moving to all-seaters didn't affect the atmosphere in the grounds in your opinion?

It did, but soul and atmosphere are two different things IMHO. There might be less (or at least, a different) atmosphere at Fir Park now than there was 25 years ago, but it still has much the same soul… otherwise folk wouldn't be complaining about leaving it behind for a "soulless" new build.

 

Only analogy I can think of at this time of night is the difference between weather and climate I suppose -- weather/atmosphere is what you have at any given moment, climate/soul is what you have over a longer period of time, and to some extent defines a place and the people who inhabit it.

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I see Numpty's point. Folk lump Almondvale in with the soulless flat pack notion, but that wee stadium or similar, would be fucking jumping with a decent team on the park and a good crowd.

 

Exactly. We could make some racket in there. Part of the problem with Fir park is it is so big and open.

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It's part design. You need closed in corners and 4 stands. Not NDP or NSMP but definitely Almondvale or Parc y Scarlets.

 

 

And we won't get that, we are skinto people therefore it stands to reason we won't be able to afford our dream stadium. Therefore I vote we stay put cos Fir Park is a'right. Compared to a flat pack pre-fab where the only unique feature would be the colour of the seats it wins every time.

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Not like wellfans to focus on one tiny assumed negative, in what is a very positive and welcome press article

:thumbup: Cannae play on the positives for too long, not much else in the way of debate there cos we more or less agree on the rest of the article. Precisely why fanzines flourish during tough times for clubs and fall away when their need is lessened.

 

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Why would we want to lock potential customers out during big games? 12,000ish should be the aim - not that I want to leabe Fir Park

 

Why would we want a (less than) half full stadium for 90% of the games played there?

 

Most people want to see us at Fir Park for sentimental reasons... And I would miss the stadium but I'd also love to see us in a new purpose built home. Soul, history and atmosphere would come to a new place given time.

 

I wager that the majority of Buddies are happier in their new stadium than they were at Love Street.

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Because we should be ambitious and be looking to strive for larger attendances, not capping our capacity at 8000

I'm sure if we ever started filling an 8000-seater stadium every week, we'd soon have (or be able to secure) the funds to extend it a bit.

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As a club we're ultra keen to roll over and have our belly's tickled 4 times a season by the OF (financial armaggeddon otherwise, viewers) then we need to be aiming for capacity of between 10K and 15K - so that although we're getting pumped - wereat least bringing in the cash.

 

There's no point in saying we need OF @ home paydays (and we can't afford poor Rainjurs to go bust) - then having a capacity below what they generally generate.

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:laugh: someone at the club must have really pissed you off in the past - you pour scorn on everything they do :laugh:

 

Here was me thinking I was pouring scorn on the clown who thought the press were giving us a good write up when in actual fact it all they were doing was giving space to a propaganda sheet written by a board member.

I stand corrected. :wallbash:

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