joewarkfanclub Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I think if we beat St Johnstone and Dundee United at home we will finish 3rd and will deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxywell Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 2 wins will be good enough although i can see us going into the Utd game needing to win.If we miss out then at least we wont get a doing in the cl qualifier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Momentum in sport is a big contributing factor. Utd and Saints have been playing well and we have struggled a bit recently. Goals win games and we need OJ and Higdon to get the shooting boots on or I fear we will miss out on third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I've too been diagnosed with severe MJC's.We dont have the firepower to make 3rd. Both Saints and Utd are better up front than us so we'll finish 4th or 5th. <_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I hate Cliche's, but one game at a time has to be the approach. Sod Utd and Saints, it's what we do that counts. They'd just love to be in our position, but they aint, so lets get 3pts on Sunday and take it from there. Go MFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC_MKI Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't think we'll do it because quite simply; a) We're on the slide, and; b) Dundee Utd & St.Johnstone are on the way up. We may get a result against Hibs at Easter Road on Sunday, but post split we will lose to Celtic, lose to Rangers, lose to Hearts and it will come down to the home games against Dundee Utd and St.Johnstone, from which I believe we will only get one point. We will finish 5th, if we're lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Dundee UTd and St Johnstone may have the momentum just now but as we know it only takes one bad day to scupper that. We're in pole position so it's ours to throw away which I don't think we will cos we are better than both of them.If we do slip back then we will have no-one to blame but ourselves cos our position is, as they say, commanding just now and simply we won't deserve to be there if we allow this lead to falter. I'm still hoping Rangers might slip up and we can still catch them actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweed Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't think we'll do it because quite simply; a) We're on the slide, and; b) Dundee Utd & St.Johnstone are on the way up. Our slide consists of a loss to Killie who we haven't beaten all year and a loss to Rangers who have beaten us time after time. We haven't dropped points we weren't dropping before. St Johnstone were unbeaten in six but Hearts were the only team in the top half that they beat. In the last round if fixtures they took 3 points from 15 against the teams they need to play again. Dundee Utd are the concern but they have a poor record in Aberdeen. If we win two games they need to win four from six to finish ahead of us which includes Aberdeen, both the OF, Hearts and Saints. I really can't see us blowing it if we win on Sunday. Of course, United and Saints will have played by then. I also think Hearts winning on Saturday is good news as if they have something to hit at they will be more up for it against the Tayside teams and they are all more likely to cut each other's throat. For all the momentum in the world I wouldn't swap position with anyone just now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonwellfan Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 I don't think we'll do it because quite simply; a) We're on the slide, and;We will finish 5th, if we're lucky. There is that downward spiral again eh. 2 defeats in 9 is being on the slide :laugh: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 We will finish 5th, if we're lucky. So you think it will be luck that sees Hearts not winning all their games and us not losing all our games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickoza Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Good news!!!!!!!!!!! Dundee United manager Peter Houston and forward Gary Mackay-Steven have been recognised by the Scottish Premier League for their form in March. Houston has been named Manager of the Month, having taken the Terrors to four league wins out of four. United defeated Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Rangers, Hibernian and Dunfermline Athletic, scoring ten goals and conceding just once. Mackay-Steven, who has been picked as Young Player of the Month, was a key figure in their success, which has seen the club move into fourth in the SPL table. The 22-year-old featured in all four matches, finding the net in the 2-0 win over Hibernian. It is the second successive month he has won the award, having also been recognised in February. Houston is recognised for the first time this season, having last won the manager's award in March 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superwell87 Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Of course we will still finish third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 We are in pole position, but I do think the game against Hibs is massive. If we lose and the other two win then its down to 2 points and its basically anyone's game after that. If we can go into the split either 5 or more points ahead then I think we have a great chance. There is a massive incentive for all these clubs and they will all be trying their best to get that Champions League spot. Also I wouldn't rule Hearts out just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 We are in pole position, but I do think the game against Hibs is massive. If we lose and the other two win then its down to 2 points and its basically anyone's game after that. If we can go into the split either 5 or more points ahead then I think we have a great chance. There is a massive incentive for all these clubs and they will all be trying their best to get that Champions League spot. Also I wouldn't rule Hearts out just yet. Hearts are finished in the race for third. Would require Motherwell/United/St Johnstone drawing their games with each other and Hearts winning all theirs. Hearts attentions will turn to the Scottish Cup (talks that a weakened side will be picked this weekend). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 If we match utd and St Johnstones results this weekend then i think we're looking good. Defeat for us coupled with wins for pur rivals will mean it's anybodys though. I would be pretty gutted to not finish 3rd now after being there nearly the full season and worse still throwing away an 11 point lead in the process. Hopefully the players want it as much as us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's lovechild Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Judging by how we're playing against Hibs so far and 4 losses out of last 6 league and cup games, I unfortunately think we'll choke it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
du_du_dubordeaux Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Our goals and wins have dried up big time. I can see us beating st Johnstone but struggling to see where any other wins will come from after that today. A big factor may be our inability to beat the OF. Utd ad hearts can take points off them but we can't/won't. Maybe down to last day of the season (if we're still in it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickoza Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Hibs are fighting to stay up. Was always going to be that kind of game today, happy with a point. We'll be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Given the circumstances, and our recent run, it's a point gained today. Due to our poorer GD, we are effectively 4pts ahead of Saints, (-1 goal), 5pts ahead of Are Shyte, (-7 goals), and 6pts ahead of Jambos, (-9 goals). That effectively means Saints have a minimum target to win 1 and draw 1 more than us, assuming their 1 goal advantage remains. While for Are Shyte its win 1 and draw 2 more than us And for Hearts its win 2 more, or win 1 and draw 3 more than us. All this to be achieved from a mere 5 games. Basically 3rd place is ours to lose. This group of players have done themselves, and us, proud this season so far. Thru a twist of fate, and what is perhaps a once in a ifetime opportunity for the club/players/fans, we have a CL place within our grasp. 2 wins from 5 is what I reckon we'll need to secure 3rd place, as I don't see Saints winning 3 and drawing 1, or Are Shyte winning 3 and drawing 2 or Jambos winning 4. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roly Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Our goals and wins have dried up big time. I can see us beating st Johnstone but struggling to see where any other wins will come from after that today. A big factor may be our inability to beat the OF. Utd ad hearts can take points off them but we can't/won't. Maybe down to last day of the season (if we're still in it) You only need to score once to win a game and draws against our nearest rivals may well be enough. I've already pointed out before that winning Vs the OF is irrelevant if you're not consistant against diddys. Take Aberdeen out the league and there's a 9 point swing between us and Dundee Utd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Given the circumstances, and our recent run, it's a point gained today. Due to our poorer GD, we are effectively 4pts ahead of Saints, (-1 goal), 5pts ahead of Are Shyte, (-7 goals), and 6pts ahead of Jambos, (-9 goals). That effectively means Saints have a minimum target to win 1 and draw 1 more than us, assuming their 1 goal advantage remains. While for Are Shyte its win 1 and draw 2 more than us And for Hearts its win 2 more, or win 1 and draw 3 more than us. Not often I would argue with your logic big man, especially if you are standing right next to me.....................but Even with a poorer goal difference that point today means that: St Johnstone now need to win 2 more game than us or win 1 game and draw 2 more games than us. For their goal difference to matter they need to be level on points..... Hearts now need to win 2 more games and a draw more than us, rather than just 2 wins. For DDee Utd today's point is less effective as they still would need to win 2 more games than us which was the same before today's game. That was a great point to win after being a goal down with 10 minutes left. All in all I thought the team played well (having just watched recorded game) - thanks to in -laws second half especaiily the team never gave up and played some decent footie. I am quite upbeat.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 I was at Murrayfield yesterday, up at 4am back home at midnight, 8hrs in a train and hunners of french wine in Cafe Rouge..................so the logic-sektor may be slightly dulled, but essentially these figures above are our comfort zone ............... a comfort zone that I'd hope was secure enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjy Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Since we never do things the easy way my bet is we need to draw the last game at home to United. We go 2-0 up then with 20 minutes to go they score. Five minutes from time up they score again and we hang on to get third place with the supporters too worn out to celebrate properly when the whistle goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Since we never do things the easy way my bet is we need to draw the last game at home to United. We go 2-0 up then with 20 minutes to go they score. Five minutes from time up they score again and we hang on to get third place with the supporters too worn out to celebrate properly when the whistle goes. Knowing the Fir Park crowd, the team would get boo'd off for throwing away a 2 goal lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 From a numbers or percentage perspective just wondered how many doubters there are.and how many have faith in the team to see it through to the end of the season with only 6 games left. My vote is a resounding YES! I telt ye!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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