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If we do sell them for derisory amounts, it would be down to Motherwell and not Scottish football.

 

Hearts, Hibs and Dundee Utd manage to hold out for value.

 

The story on the official does come as somewhat desperate. If the figures are true, neither bid really merits a mention.

 

Aye a suppose so, the clubs down south probably think we are desperate for money after the rangers fiasco. Just hope the club don't take whatever their given and hold out for what the players are worth instead.

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Well done Motherwell on turning down those offers if the quoted figures are correct. Those are two of our best players and to let them go for such paltry sums would have been ridiculous, so well done for standing your ground MFC.

 

However I very doubt that this will be the end of the matter and I fully expect both players to be gone in the next few weeks leaving us with a very, very bleak outlook for the season ahead.

 

I just hope that we can get somethings resembling a decent transfer fee for these players but in the current financial climate and given that our club appear to be cash strapped, I won't be holding my breath.

 

Worrying times indeed.

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Hutchinson will end up going if a bid over £600,000 comes in I reckon.

 

If he played for Dundee United, they'd get over a million plus a number of add ons. Unfortunately we always go moist at the first sign of a half serious bid.

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I'm thinking we don't sell anyone before europe is done.

 

I agree with that, I posted the figures in one of the European threads, but sure it's £1.3 million for beating levante, before a balls kicked or ticket sold for group stages. There are then bonuses for every point, 3 big home gates and possible tv income.

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As a club with a requirement to 'sell a player a season' we have done pretty well in holding onto our assets. However, I think it was inevitable, even before new TV deal was signed, that we would need to offload one or two this time around.

 

I was expecting Randolph and Hutch to be prime targets and I think we have sufficient cover to avoid it being a catastrophic loss. It would be more difficult to deal with the loss of Jennings and Law.

 

I'm a realist and agree with most of that Weeyin, just tend to think its been down to lack of offers rather than us choosing to hold on to our assets

 

The official statement certainly looks like a "come and get them" advert to me. Ideally we can get a decent amount for Law and start a bidding war for Shaun Hutchinson. It's a shame he got injured when he was on the verge of an England U21 cap, that could have considerably increased the amount sides are willing to pay and could have sparked a bit more interest.

 

yeah I'm happy the club are doing it, in a way you see it with the bigger clubs, just sticks out like a sore thumb when we do it, and can be interpreted as desperate if you like, but its all part of the game

 

To be fair, the Steelmen Forever thing so far, at least to me, seems to have been "Big shiny new campaign launched! Send us ideas!" and then silence.

yeah I was a bit disheartened by LD's comment, even went and read over the bumf again and realised its all Internet based and never even heard or seen it at opening game

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Transfer fees are partly based on players current contracts. The fact that our players are at the bottom end of the pay scale in the SPL means we will always suffer when we eventuially punt them on, even when they are on lengthy deals.

 

Guys like Goodwillie were on good wages when they were sold so United could demand a bigger fee. You can also bet Gunning is on a decent amount too.

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I am a little confused by the STV story and the official MFC story. The MFC one states we have knocked back bids that were significant - how can £150k and £250k be construed as significant, even with our negotiation history.

 

I was pretty sure Hutchy would be off b4 the transfer window and I suspect that will start the bidding process. We should be looking at minimum £800k+ for Hutch. 2 years left on his contract. No hurry and hopefully he will add value.

 

Law is slightly different if he has only 12 months left. But would still be looking for £500k

 

Both would be big losses, but would allow us to bank near enough £1m and hopefully anything left over to bolster the squad. Faddy for Law :whistling:

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Losing players is no big deal. I've seen scores of irreplaceable players leave Fir Park only to be replaced by others. When Faddy left the club was supposedly going to implode. It didn't. The same thing happened with Ian St John, Bobby Roberts, Dixie Deans, Keith McRae, Gary McAllister, Lee MacCulloch, Phil O'Donnell, Brian McLair, Scott MacDonald, to name but 9. The club is still here.

 

Our problem is our reputation or rather lack of it. Any young player breaking through at Easter Road, Tannadice or Pittodrie is automatcially a world beater. It might not be true but English clubs believe that.

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Sorry, but when do we ever have crowds of over 5/6000? 4000 sounds about right for a Motherwell game, granted its usually 4700 ish well fans. For August when folk are mainly still off abroad on holiday or are having to cover holiday makers at work, that's not so bad.i may be sugar coating hell here but sill, calm doon.. That's small rant aside, the offered amount would up our budget by 150k considering the 200k deficit. Highly significant in running our team. We could offer someone a decent wage for the season, and help ensure a higher finish.

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The problem would be the amount of experience we have lost in defence very quickly. Craigan, Clancy, and if it happens, Hutchinson in a matter of months. Saunders is out for a while and apart from Ramsden it is Cummins, Kerr, or Page in on a full time basis. At tjhis point, Kerr is only with us till January as well. We would need another defender to come in imo and at least another midfielder, possibly two, if we lose Law.

 

If we can do that.....well that's another story.

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In my lifetime.....

 

McLoy,Deans,Forsyth,McRae,Pettigrew,Mclair,

 

Mcallister,Walker,Boyd,O'Donnell,McFadden,

 

McDonald,Pearson etc etc

 

have all left the club,for in some cases good/poor/excellent fees......

 

we are and always have been a selling club and as previously mentioned un less we can double our home crowd nothing will change !!!

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