Wellfan1984 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 I'm not the only one that's getting a wee bittie excited reading this... Surely every Motherwell fan is a wee bit excited. If they're not then they're dead inside man! Come Tuesday night I might even have us winning the fucking thing 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Nae bother getting to the Final. Wee skite doon to London.....easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snap19 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Talking about financially, does anyone know roughly what we stand to make from say one qualifying round of the champions league? And would we get a tv deal and things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC'd Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Celtic will enter at the same stage, but in the Champions path. So, if there is any TV deal, then they'd be heading to Parkhead and not to Fir Park. The TV deal is a one off for each round prior to the Group Stages, so it would be upto BBC Scotland or Sky to agree a deal with whichever clubs to broadcast that particular round. As for the Europa, I think the Nancy home/away ties were the only ties ever to be shown on UK TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 I'm not the only one that's getting a wee bittie excited reading this... I've been excited since Marty was getting the Champions League theme played in Daniels (sometimes twice in a row...) after home games way back in about October... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Taken from Bert Kassies site (circa 2009 but should be broadly similar)... According to Marko Vjetrovic who is the presidentof Partizan Belgrad and a member of the European Club Asscociation (ECA) theprize money for the UEFA club competions will increase. UEFA Champions League 2009/2010: Bonus for domestic champion: 200.000 € * 1st qualifying round: 130.000 € * 2nd qualifying round: 130.000 € * 3rd qualifying round: 130.000 € * Playoffs: 2.100.000 € * Group stage: 7.100.000 € Group match victory: 800.000 € Group match draw: 400.000 € 1st knock out round: 3.000.000 € Quarter-finals: 3.300.000 € Semi-finals: 4.200.000 € Final: 5.500.000 € Winning the final: 3.500.000 € * = These payments were only awarded to the clubswhich quould not qualify for the UEFA Champions League group stage! The remaining balance of € 341 million will bedistributed according to the proportional value of each TV market, i.e. € 750,7milion will be distributed from the group stage onwards (five times more thanin the UEFA Europa League). UEFA Europa League 2009/2010: 1st qualifying round: 90.000 € 2nd qualifying round: 90.000 € 3rd qualifying round: 90.000 € Playoffs: 90.000 € Group stage: 1.000.000 € Group match victory: 140.000 € Group match draw: 70.000 € 1st knock out round: 200.000 € 2nd knock out round: 300.000 € Quarter-finals: 400.000 € Semi-finals: 700.000 € Final: 2.000.000 € Winning the final: 1.000.000 € The remaining balance of € 60 million will bedistributed according to the proportional value of each TV market, i.e. €150,36 milion will be distributed from the group stage onwards. UEFA Supercup 2009: Loser: 2.000.000 € Winner: 2.500.000 € Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolhandluc Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Might be obvious, but is it one qualifying round then play off then group stage? Assuming we win Taken from Bert Kassies site (circa 2009 but should be broadly similar)... According to Marko Vjetrovic who is the presidentof Partizan Belgrad and a member of the European Club Asscociation (ECA) theprize money for the UEFA club competions will increase. UEFA Champions League 2009/2010: Bonus for domestic champion: 200.000 € * 1st qualifying round: 130.000 € * 2nd qualifying round: 130.000 € * 3rd qualifying round: 130.000 € * Playoffs: 2.100.000 € * Group stage: 7.100.000 € Group match victory: 800.000 € Group match draw: 400.000 € 1st knock out round: 3.000.000 € Quarter-finals: 3.300.000 € Semi-finals: 4.200.000 € Final: 5.500.000 € Winning the final: 3.500.000 € * = These payments were only awarded to the clubswhich quould not qualify for the UEFA Champions League group stage! The remaining balance of € 341 million will bedistributed according to the proportional value of each TV market, i.e. € 750,7milion will be distributed from the group stage onwards (five times more thanin the UEFA Europa League). UEFA Europa League 2009/2010: 1st qualifying round: 90.000 € 2nd qualifying round: 90.000 € 3rd qualifying round: 90.000 € Playoffs: 90.000 € Group stage: 1.000.000 € Group match victory: 140.000 € Group match draw: 70.000 € 1st knock out round: 200.000 € 2nd knock out round: 300.000 € Quarter-finals: 400.000 € Semi-finals: 700.000 € Final: 2.000.000 € Winning the final: 1.000.000 € The remaining balance of € 60 million will bedistributed according to the proportional value of each TV market, i.e. €150,36 milion will be distributed from the group stage onwards. UEFA Supercup 2009: Loser: 2.000.000 € Winner: 2.500.000 € Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Can just see it .......................... we draw CSKA Sofia away and the Beggarz draw Levski Sofia away... on the same night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 As for the Europa, I think the Nancy home/away ties were the only ties ever to be shown on UK TV. Does the Llanelli tie on S4C count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weesacs Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 from a personal financial point of view - im hoping Holland, absolutely no doubt Portugal & Turkey will be summer holiday time, so cant see many cheap flights Moscow is fecking miles away Ukraine (Kiev) is a fcuking horrible place that I would never take my kids too and its an absolute disgrace they are being allowed to host the Euros So Holland it is!!!!!! Unless Chelsea win the Champions League and throw all the co-efficients out the window!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last post by: Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 What will happen to the co-efficients if Chelsea win?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 According to Wiki If Chelsea win and finish fourth in league The third-placed team of association 6 (Portugal) and the runners-up of association 7 (Russia) are promoted from the third qualifying round to the play-off round. If Chelsea win and finish outside top four in league Because of the restriction that no association can have more than four teams playing in the Champions League, the fourth-placed team of the 2011–12 Premier League, which would have entered in the 2012–13 Champions League play-off round, will be moved to the 2012–13 UEFA Europa League. In this case, the allocation system for the Champions League will be changed in the same way as above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 So now I actually want Chelsea to win the Champions League? Sad times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weesacs Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 im not 100% sure or how, but i think it might be in our interests if they win it depends what countries then move in to the non winners pool.........(anyone actually know?) however, i'm happy to see the possibility of going to Russia removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 None. Only Russia and Portugal are removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 None. Only Russia and Portugal are removed But who replaces them?Must be someone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weesacs Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 None. Only Russia and Portugal are removed so if they are removed, there will be 8 teams in that section rather than 10 - meaning there will be 4 games rather than 5 So from the initial list of 5 (Russia, Portugal. Turkey, Holland, Ukraine) - Turkey, Holland, Ukraine will remain and one of the previous non seeds, moves into the seeded section???? Any idea what country that will be?!?!?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 But who replaces them?Must be someone No one. Scotland is the last position in the Co-Eff for a runner-up spot. All nations below us receive only a Champions Place. The only movement will be if Chelsea end third and win it or Bayern win it. And only then it will be in the Champions path. Instead of five ties being played in 3rd round, there will be 4. We will still be the worst ranked side in there though. Seeded place goes by clubs rather than nation. Steelboy summed it up best with it likely to be Club Brugge (Belgium) or likely PAO (Greece). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC'd Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 so if they are removed, there will be 8 teams in that section rather than 10 - meaning there will be 4 games rather than 5 So from the initial list of 5 (Russia, Portugal. Turkey, Holland, Ukraine) - Turkey, Holland, Ukraine will remain and one of the previous non seeds, moves into the seeded section???? Any idea what country that will be?!?!?!?!? General consensus is that Belgium are the country on the cut-off point between Seeds and Non-Seeds. So, if it is any Nation then it most likely them and probably Club Brugge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 No one. Scotland is the last position in the Co-Eff for a runner-up spot. All nations below us receive only a Champions Place. The only movement will be if Chelsea end third and win it or Bayern win it. And only then it will be in the Champions path. Instead of five ties being played in 3rd round, there will be 4. We will still be the worst ranked side in there though. Seeded place goes by clubs rather than nation. Steelboy summed it up best with it likely to be Club Brugge (Belgium) or likely PAO (Greece). Ma heids hurting already. Am going back to my original plan and waiting til the draw to see who we get, assuming we qualify of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Same boat as fatcalf. Have tried to keep track but mah heids pickled now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Same boat as fatcalf. Have tried to keep track but mah heids pickled now. Huv a drink, go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Seeded place goes by clubs rather than nation. Steelboy summed it up best with it likely to be Club Brugge (Belgium) or likely PAO (Greece). i wasted an afternoon at work yesterday looking into it in a bit more detail. at the moment russia, portugal, ukraine, turkey, holland, greece, belgium and romania are all still possible for us. russia - there are 3 games to go and dinamo moscow are in 2nd with cska, spartak, lokomotiv and anzi all within 4 points. it would suit for dinamo or anzi to get the spot as they would both definitely be unseeded. spartak and cska are both guaranteed seeds if they get it. lokomotiv are borderline. portugal - braga look set to finish 3rd. they'll be seeded as would sporting or benfica should there be a shock. ukraine - looks like dinamo kiev unless shaktar bottle it. both seeds anyway. turkey - fenerbahce. probably seeds. holland - feyenoord are faves with 2 games to go although they have a difficult game against hevereern on the final day. feyenoord won't be seeded but if psv or az pip them they would be. greece - panathanikos have a 4 point head start in a champions league style mini group with aek, paok and some other mob we can't play. pana would be seeded. aek and paok could be but probably won't be. belgium - brugges look favourites and have a good chance of being seeds if they qualify which would be our ideal tie imo. racing genk are long shots for a seed if they get in. romania - there still five teams in it but steaua and cluj are the only two we would be slightly likely to draw. hopefully rapid or dinamo get 2nd as they can't be seeded and going to bucharest again would be a let down. if everything finished as it is today these would be the seeds. bayern win - braga, kiev, fenerbahce, panathanikos and brugges. chelsea win - kiev, fenerbache, panathanikos and brugges. obviously a lot can happen in the next couple of weeks but we are looking for psv or az to overtake feyenoord for a trip to holland, brugges to qualify so hopefully belguim is a possibility, panathanikos to fuck up which would greatly increase the chances of getting brugges and dinamo moscow to get the place in russia to rule out going there. my best case scenario would be: braga, kiev, fenerbahce, psv and brugges. a 60% chance of dodging eastern europe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nole81 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 What do they sing @ 1:05? Fate? Ojamaa?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Ce sont les meilleure equipes Es sind sie allerbesten Mannschaften The main event Die Meister Die Besten Les grande equips The champions! Une grande reunion Eine große sportliche Veranstaltung The main event Ils sont les meilleurs Sie sind die Besten These are the champions Die Meister Die Besten Les grandes equipes The champions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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