weeyin Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Is that a legit quote? He seriously walked away from a multi-million pound business deal because some punters called him a Yank and told him to go home? Link up on the Beeb now shows fans with 2 banners: "TRUCK OFF MILLER - YANKS NO THANKS" and "MILLER TIME - NO THANKS TO ASSET STRIPPING YANKS" But it sounds more likely he was scared off when he finally had access to the accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Aye, from the chat on SSN it sounds like he's taken one look at the books and jumped on the first flight back to the States. At this rate the SPL chairmen will need to get a whip round and form a consortium to save them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Aye, from the chat on SSN it sounds like he's taken one look at the books and jumped on the first flight back to the States. At this rate the SPL chairmen will need to get a whip round and form a consortium to save them. SPL chairmen are to hold an emergency pants shitting meeting at Hampden park tomorrow according to the latest report on Sky Sport News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 SPL chairmen are to hold an emergency pants shitting meeting at Hampden park tomorrow according to the latest report on Sky Sport News. Been much simpler if they had just relegated them already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Best case scenario is this drags on untill they just can't keep going and collapse. Then have a scramble to start a new club, two or three start up in division 3 and the whole brand just melts away as none can claim to be the 'true rangers' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Aye, from the chat on SSN it sounds like he's taken one look at the books and jumped on the first flight back to the States. He never came to Scotland in the first place, the guy doesn't have a passport and has never left America. Fuck knows what interest he had in buying a debt stricken fitbaw team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 UEFA should appoint a panel from different countries who have no axe to grind, look at the whole sorry mess from a purely football perspective and dish out an appropriate punishment. It Iooks more and more like our own national organisations haven't a scooby about what to do that everyone can accept. Leave the tax problems to the taxman, we really need to stop making/changing rules as we go along. Everyone can then get on with their lives as its all getting extremely boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Pangloss Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 To play in any UEFA affiliated league a club needs a Club Licence. When the present RFC dies its licence goes with it. It cannot, by UEFA's and the SFA's own rules, be transferred from old Rangers to any New Rangers. That's why Miller's offer was the best one Rangers fans had to keep their club alive as it is. Therefore any Newco formed by anyone can buy as many assets of the old RFC as it likes - stadium, name, Murray Park - but it won't be eligible for a Club Licence for at least three years. Funnily enough the papers and radio have made no mention of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 He never came to Scotland in the first place, the guy doesn't have a passport and has never left America. Fuck knows what interest he had in buying a debt stricken fitbaw team. I didn't know that. Belter of a preferred bidder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCC Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 I didn't know that. Belter of a preferred bidder. Its worse than you think as he also admitted that he had never actually been to a soccer ball match before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 I didn't know that. Belter of a preferred bidder. I only heard them talking about it on sportsound on saturday. Apparantly McCoist was due to fly to the states for talks with him. Quite why a manager should be the person who has to travel 3000miles to talk to a buyer is beyond me. Surely if the guy was ever serious he'd have been in Scotland himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk_in_drublic Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 On page nine of the official Rangers accounts there must be a photo of a guy swinging from a rope taking a shit. Bill Miller just arrived at this page. There must be real serious financial issues there that we don't even know about yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Made Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Heard on the radio there that £12M gets you in the door but they need another £5 to 6M to see them through the close season. Then there's the money they'll need to start paying out when the season starts. Without the Champions League it looks like whoever goes for it is going to need a minimum of £30M just to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCC Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Starting to think that the SPL and Clubs all know that the buns are fecked and keep delaying any votes so that they dont have to show their cards in public, knowing how bad the backlash from fans will be! Basically, we are all just waiting on them being liquidated and nature taking it's course and in the history books it will go down as a Third Lanark/Lehman Brothers type event......it could never happen etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Starting to think that the SPL and Clubs all know that the buns are fecked and keep delaying any votes so that they dont have to show their cards in public, knowing how bad the backlash from fans will be! Basically, we are all just waiting on them being liquidated and nature taking it's course and in the history books it will go down as a Third Lanark/Lehman Brothers type event......it could never happen etc.... And then they'll buy Ross County (you heard it here first). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCC Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 And then they'll buy Ross County (you heard it here first). No doubt that will be someones plan, suspect they might go bargain basement though and buy a cheapo first division club with the idea of coming straight up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 A question for everyone here. If Rangers cease to play in the SPL next season would our crowds and those of other SPL clubs increase? By my reckoning Rangers bring about 8,000 fans to FP every season. Now say they pay a mix of £23 and £15 - average £20. By my reckoning that brings in £160,000. Off that we have to deduct VAT and we'd be left with about £124,000. Fans of a replacement club would also bring revenue. OK they buy snacks and drinks etc but we have to pay police and stewarding bills. A very crude calculation but its not a fortune is it? Would we make that up in increased home gate receipts? Whatever the economics, I don't think gate receipts are the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 A question for everyone here. If Rangers cease to play in the SPL next season would our crowds and those of other SPL clubs increase? By my reckoning Rangers bring about 8,000 fans to FP every season. Now say they pay a mix of £23 and £15 - average £20. By my reckoning that brings in £160,000. Off that we have to deduct VAT and we'd be left with about £124,000. Fans of a replacement club would also bring revenue. OK they buy snacks and drinks etc but we have to pay police and stewarding bills. A very crude calculation but its not a fortune is it? Would we make that up in increased home gate receipts? Whatever the economics, I don't think gate receipts are the issue. gate reciepts have never been the issue, the real problem is the question of whether the tv deals are dependant on them or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well-army Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Where did you hear that Eddie ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCC Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Celtic are currently in advanced stages of talks with UEFA & English FA about a move to League 1/Championship, not bottom of the structure as should be the case. Hence their ominous silence throughout the Rangers debacle. They are planning to jump ship ASAP. Now your just teasing! Imagine a competitive SPL without either half of the scum or the hatred and atmosphere they bring with them! People would say we couldn't survive but all clubs just have to accept that they will ALL be operating at a new lower level but at least it would be a level playing field for every club. Please make it come true...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCC Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 So now we have Butcher saying that Caley cant survive without the buns! Does anyone else feel we are being spoonfed snippets from each club to prepare us all for the fact that regardless of what crimes have been commited, or financial mismanagement or cheating (allegedly) or whether they use a newco or CVA or anything else....The mighty buns will be in the SPL next season wih the backing of the SFA, SPL, every Club and anyone else considered important enough to have an opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Craig Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 So now we have Butcher saying that Caley cant survive without the buns! Does anyone else feel we are being spoonfed snippets from each club to prepare us all for the fact that regardless of what crimes have been commited, or financial mismanagement or cheating (allegedly) or whether they use a newco or CVA or anything else....The mighty buns will be in the SPL next season wih the backing of the SFA, SPL, every Club and anyone else considered important enough to have an opinion! Thing that gets me about El Tel's comments is that ICT have recently suffered relegation and managed to survive without the TV and Rangers dough. They even went on that spectacular away run which lasted well into their 1st season back in the SPL. Another bit of proof that we do not need Rangers in the SPL to survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Thing that gets me about El Tel's comments is that ICT have recently suffered relegation and managed to survive without the TV and Rangers dough. They even went on that spectacular away run which lasted well into their 1st season back in the SPL. Another bit of proof that we do not need Rangers in the SPL to survive. Of course, their counter argument will be the Rangers dough gave them sufficient funds to survive relegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCC Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Of course, their counter argument will be the Rangers dough gave them sufficient funds to survive relegation. Or replace caley with any number of teams in the First Division who manage to run a business without the buns money and still survive (Obviously not including Dundee or Livi in that!). Although they are both examples of what happens when you try to rise above what should be a level playing field..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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