steelboy Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 we didn't even get 5000 fans in for a 3pm saturday kick off that had huge champions league implications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Let's not forget the 10%+ that could be lost if a newco Rangers are playing in the SPL. A corrupt league is not an attractive prospect in anyone's book. No, but a legit race for 2nd would certainly make things more interesting. It stands to reason that we would see more fans interested if that happens. A more competitive league won't do any harm, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 we didn't even get 5000 fans in for a 3pm saturday kick off that had huge champions league implications. Does it really matter if they were there, if the tickets are sold? we keep getting told season ticket sales are up year on year so we must be at around 5k with them and PATG punters by now folk are referring to a boost in interest and sales, are you really saying there will be no boost at all if Rangers are found guilty of some quite exceptional rule breaking and are dealt with, at least as harshly, as other clubs who got nowhere near the benefits they did from their alleged corruption? no boost from a more competitive league ( McCall was wrong ) no boost on the ongoing growth of local families choosing MFC over Rangers/Tic no boost from folk fretting over a league verging on declaring itself corruptible the 10% might have been clutched from the sky but you really think an honest punishment for the crimes listed would have a negative effect on our crowds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inthebasement Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 1338722516[/url]' post='344077']how do you come that to conculsion? Not sure why all of the above comments are about well, i think it has been established that good season or bad we have one of more static hardcore supports in the spl. Hearts, Aberdeen, Utd, Hibs and probably killie would all see a greater increase in crowns were the league to be more compentative and financially balanced. But actually, if pushed i'd say we'd see a reasonable increase of at least 10% also. Depending on what was happening with rangers all west coast clubs would also see a direct transfer of support from locals who previously went to ibrox, but still want a pint and a game. In any case, it's just a guess and clear speculation. That's all we can do when dealing in hypotheticals. It's obvious that significant games draw crowds - maybe it would be easier if you explained your objection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLip69 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 There is one sticking point though that makes all this fanciful. While the vast majority of supporters want to see Rangers punished properly, the high heid yins are bricking it, and by that I mean the chairmen of every club in the SPL and the heirarchy at SFA and SPL headquarters. Regardless of the soundbites McCall, Webster, and Weir spout, you can put your house on Motherwell voting a Newco back into the SPL. If Rangers get suspended or thrown out on Friday, some hope, they will appeal to CAS, the only place left for them. CAS have a backlog of 18 months or so, that means that any punishment will be suspended till the case can be heard. Rangers will be back in the SPL next season as if nothing ever happened. By the time the CAS gets round to hearing the case a compromise will have been reached and we'll be back where we started. I dont believe any SPL club will vote against the Newco, maybe Celtic but only if Rangers are safe. Motherwell will bend over and take it up the boys gate, like the rest of the SPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 ...you can put your house on Motherwell voting a Newco back into the SPL. ...Motherwell will bend over and take it up the boys gate, like the rest of the SPL. Sad but true. I’m just glad that I wont be a part of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Sad but true. I’m just glad that I wont be a part of it. Same here, unfortunately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 so no more moderating or kit designing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 so no more moderating or kit designing? If this board officially backs NEWCO, then no 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 See you guys - IMO fortunately you won't be missed in the grand scheme - we've lost supporters throughout the years, who have decided not to go for whatever reason and held our core support - like losing players we've survived before and will again. Couldn't care less what happens with Rangers (NEWCO, OLDCO, CVA) my love is and always will be Motherwell FC and nothing, but nothing will change that, or my financial backing to the club. The league has been corrupt and one-sided since its formation and has actively favoured the Brothers Grimm - only now its in the open. Deal with it and if you feel the need to walk away then do so, but give it rest telling us time and time again that your going to - or are you trying to convince yourself that its the best thing to do. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogsideloyal Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Couldn't care less what happens with Rangers (NEWCO, OLDCO, CVA) my love is and always will be Motherwell FC and nothing, but nothing will change that, or my financial backing to the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted June 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 See you guys - IMO fortunately you won't be missed in the grand scheme - we've lost supporters throughout the years, who have decided not to go for whatever reason and held our core support - like losing players we've survived before and will again. Couldn't care less what happens with Rangers (NEWCO, OLDCO, CVA) my love is and always will be Motherwell FC and nothing, but nothing will change that, or my financial backing to the club. The league has been corrupt and one-sided since its formation and has actively favoured the Brothers Grimm - only now its in the open. Deal with it and if you feel the need to walk away then do so, but give it rest telling us time and time again that your going to - or are you trying to convince yourself that its the best thing to do. Bend over and take it up the arse again bitch 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Bend over and take it up the arse again bitch Talk about broken records .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted June 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Good band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Bend over and take it up the arse again bitch Why don't you just give it to me big boy - or are you not up for it. I will and I'll enjoy every last minute, same as I have for the last 45 years. But you mate can take your principles and shove them where the sun don't shine, better still nip off and join the Green Brigade, because its plain that your heart doesn't really lie here - they'll no doubt welcome you and your principles with open arms. Time for you and others with similar views to either put up or shut up - don't wanna come back - don't let the door smack you on the arse on the way out, support like yours won't be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 See you guys - IMO fortunately you won't be missed in the grand scheme - we've lost supporters throughout the years, who have decided not to go for whatever reason and held our core support - like losing players we've survived before and will again. Albion Rovers have not lost their core support either. It's just much, much smaller than it used to be. At least your way, you will know the other 'core supporters' personally. Thankfully it will be such an intimate affair, you will know each other by touch. You wont be hindered by the massive pair of blinkers you are wearing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn_Broomfield Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Why don't you just give it to me big boy - or are you not up for it. I will and I'll enjoy every last minute, same as I have for the last 45 years. But you mate can take your principles and shove them where the sun don't shine, better still nip off and join the Green Brigade, because its plain that your heart doesn't really lie here - they'll no doubt welcome you and your principles with open arms. Time for you and others with similar views to either put up or shut up - don't wanna come back - don't let the door smack you on the arse on the way out, support like yours won't be missed. *Caution* "Better fan than you" alert That's until we draw Dynamo Kiev and somehow these superfans won't be there. It'll just be left to those who aren't welcome at Fir Park to go. ADS storm over Ukraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Albion Rovers have not lost their core support either. It's just much, much smaller than it used to be. At least your way, you will know the other 'core supporters' personally. Thankfully it will be such an intimate affair, you will know each other by touch. You wont be hindered by the massive pair of blinkers you are wearing. Ha Ha your logic is as sound as those who suggest Scottish Football couldn't survive without Rangers. It will survive and so will MFC when you and the other vocal minority withdraw their support. Albion Rovers core support is little short of 250, its been that way since I started watching football (my mate used to be season ticket holder and won the 50-50 7 weeks running) Ours has been a little more, but rarely over 5,000. Crowds in excess of that figure tended to be boosted by large travelling supports. Our core support, despite how important you think you are to that number. will I doubt fall below that level. Enjoy your Saturday, Sundays or whatever in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaag Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I'll be looking for someone to take over this site if we officially back a NEWCO as well... any takers? Only diehard true 'well fans need apply (aka the ones that don't care about the integrity of our game) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 *Caution* "Better fan than you" alert That's until we draw Dynamo Kiev and somehow these superfans won't be there. It'll just be left to those who aren't welcome at Fir Park to go. ADS storm over Ukraine Sorry mate can't make it already - on holiday. You going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I hate these fucking "I'm better than you" posts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn_Broomfield Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Sorry mate can't make it already - on holiday. You going? Cancelled my one holiday and my Stag do to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Cancelled my one holiday and my Stag do to go. See GazzyB now that's what you call a 'super' fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I'll be looking for someone to take over this site if we officially back a NEWCO as well... any takers? Only diehard true 'well fans need apply (aka the ones that don't care about the integrity of our game) If you lend me 200 quid, I'll buy it off you for... say, 200 quid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamH Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Time for you and others with similar views to either put up or shut up - don't wanna come back - don't let the door smack you on the arse on the way out, support like yours won't be missed. How can people "put up or shut up" when there are no games on for them not to attend? Also, nothing's actually happened yet so why is it time for people to do something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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