Orinoco Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 do we actually get much more than 5k of old fans at our ground these days? take away policing costs etc, then we probably aint making that much from them through the gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 What if Motherwell vote against it, but newco is allowed in anyway? If it comes to pass and Motherwell vote against a Rangers Newco then I would buy my season ticket as normal. At least then they would have shown to me that they value sporting integrity. However the chances of that happening are slim to none. Only Dunfermline have spoke out against a Newco, and it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to work out the reason why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Those are the biggest revenues. It's overblown bollocks to say they have gone and the loss of two gates of 9k vs rangers would be so significant. Fuck knows we may even replace it with a fixture where our own fans turn up Well I suppose we don't have the figures to make a judgement. But I'm fairly confident that TV and sponsorship money are hugely significant, and greatly reducing them would jeapordise our ability to fulfill contracts nevermind offer new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted May 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 This is my point The majority of people talking up the exodus of sponsors are current and ex RFC players and journalists who have been on their coat-tails since the murray circus began. I have yet to read a quote from any sponsor saying they are reviewing their position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Will we find out how the club voted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Will we find out how the club voted? Only if the vote goes against Rangers. We'll no doubt have fat Ally greetin about transparency and the like again, demanding to know who's responsible for "killing" Scottish football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Will we find out how the club voted? When it comes to voting on whether a Newco Rangers should be allowed back into the SPL, I would hope yes. However my understanding is that it’s not on the agenda, and will only happen if and when they form a new company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuwell Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Although its not on the agenda I'd imagine that it will be discussed so that rangers can tell bill miller how the SPL will react to a newco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Will we find out how the club voted? Yes. Irrespective of how any vote goes there's always at least one party with an axe to grind who leaks information, in the name of transparency. Just think of the secret vote which took place over Falkirk's attempt to groundshare at Airdrie. Any Board vote, if there is one should be adjourned today. The decision has to be taken by all the SPL members and not on a 11-1 or 10-2 basis either. If a Board vote is taken and its in favour of letting a Rangers Newco straight back into the SPL it will be all too easy for clubs not on the Board to say to their fans "Nothing to do with me Guv...a big boy done it and ran away". Result - they may get what they want and their own fans are satisfied their rep wan't to blame. Win - win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 so that rangers can tell bill miller how the SPL will react to a newco. They could have told him anytime, as it will be a resounding yes from all but Dunfermline. The meeting is just for show and I think we all know what the result will be as regards any Newco. I'm afraid the fans views mean nothing to the respective SPL Chairmen/Chief Exec's, if it did they would ask us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ankles Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 What the people who run our game need to realise is that its not about "punishing Rangers and kicking them when their down" anymore. Its about doing whats right. All i care about now is how MFC vote in this. The other clubs votes dont matter,the punishments dont matter,i couldn't give a toss what happens to Rangers now.But if i cant hold my head up cos Motherwell rolled over in my eyes then i've had it. There are some things you just dont do for money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Agree with much of Mr M's post there. A simpe way to get your sentiment across to the Club is: 2 x A4 sheets of paper. In thick black marker pen write No to on one and NewCo on the other and hold them aloft on Sunday. We could have a stand-up protest, 11 minutes into the game say. No to NewCo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Something like this would work well... Feel free to download and print it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic2904 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Wonder if the club should extend the Early Bird offer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Or rebrand it as the 'Dead Duck' offer if Newco are voted in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCC Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 So my decision to join the Well Society for me and my girls is now postponed until after the 30th May!! Living outside Scotland and therefore not being a season ticket holder this would be my major financial commitment to the Club but the deafening silence on a subject that is obviously at the forefront of all fans minds doesnt seem to bother our Executive Management! Please can we have an official statement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Please can we have an official statement? You’ll be lucky, you’ve got more chance of Rangers administrators turning up at an arranged meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Please can we have an official statement? You might be disappointed if you received one tonight. Its quite possible that the official statement would read something along the lines of "We are awaiting clarification on a number of legal/financial points before coming to a decision". That could indeed be the club's position, who knows? As I posted in another thread does anyone know the legal remit of the Club's Directors, or indeed the Directors of any company? This could be a crucial factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 "We are awaiting clarification on a number of legal/financial points before coming to a decision" Which would also read as "Sporting integrity means fuck all to Motherwell FC so we need to check how much money it will cost....." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Something like this would work well... Feel free to download and print it. Superb! I'll be doing just that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Which would also read as "Sporting integrity means fuck all to Motherwell FC so we need to check how much money it will cost....." i think that was established when we went into admin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Which would also read as "Sporting integrity means fuck all to Motherwell FC so we need to check how much money it will cost....." You do not know that. Motherwell FC could easily vote to kick out Rangers on the basis of incomplete or downright wrong information in the name of sporting integrity. However its the SPL which would have the final say on the basis of other votes in addition to ours. If Rangers were kicked out/heavily punished/whatever on the basis of incomplete or downright wrong information then the SPL and possibly MFC could be sued for millions. Its one thing to want to deal with Rangers in a just way (I certainly do) but you can't just go ahead and do it without checking the facts first. Remember there's nothing in the SPL rules about this situation, although there should have been. The shareholders of any company, including MFC, would be extremely unhappy if the Directors acting on principle, albeit just, took illegal action which exposed the company to very costly litigation. Neither the SPL or our club are rich enough to simply bash ahead regardless with no thought to any legal or other costs involved. Its simply my take on a very complicated situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldyin Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/rangers-and-the-incubator-part-3/ According to the above article(if I have read it right) any rule change by the SPL to allow the Newco, has to be approved by the SFL.. The Newco has to be, at least an Associate Member of the SFL, with all paperwork in place, insurances, tenure of Ibrox,etc. This will all have to be done by Friday. It is a very long article but persevere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 kmcalpin, I admire your unfloundering stance on most matters Motherwell can I ask one question though if Rangers are liquidated should they receive the same sanctions as Airdrie & Gretna? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 kmcalpin, I admire your unfloundering stance on most matters Motherwell can I ask one question though if Rangers are liquidated should they receive the same sanctions as Airdrie & Gretna? neither of those clubs attempted a newco share transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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