Wellfan1984 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'm not sure that would work to be honest, as anyone could easily vote, making it just as valid as the other poll we already have. Although true - there is ways for us to tell how people voted - and if any are found not to be members then they can be sanctioned by the Moderating team if need be. Of course, we could go with the current standing since I think, what 2 or 3 people voted for the NewCo and take that as a "No vote" - unless any member believes this would not be a true reflection of the Membership? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigshinyhead Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Given that season ticket sales were already up it would be interesting to see if this announcement has had any direct effect on sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'm not sure that would work to be honest, as anyone could easily vote, making it just as valid as the other poll we already have. True, you would be reliant on only Well Society members voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I take it our site vote will be a simple 'no'? No need to put it out to a poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I think the whole ethos of the well society is about democracy. I will be voting NO and hope the majority vote no. However, If it comes out a yes vote I will be back at fir park because my problem was about the fans wishes being ignored. I can't and will not argue with a democratic choice. If (as I expect) we now vote no and Rangers get 11 votes and are playing in the SPL then I am not going to punish my club because we done the right thing. I think there is a point to a Motherwell team who listen to their fans. Anyway I think they're fucked anyway. Yeah that's fair enough, of course. Although i'm not really referring to the possibility of the Well Society voting yes...there's no possibility of that at all. We're a stick-on "no" vote, thank goodness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Yeah that's fair enough, of course. Although i'm not really referring to the possibility of the Well Society voting yes...there's no possibility of that at all. We're a stick-on "no" vote, thank goodness. We're all assuming that, maybe the Well Society members will vote yes when they see the facts and figures... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 If there is, maybe it should be after we receive all the details from the club. Now there's a novel approach - wait until you are in full possession of the facts before deciding how to vote. Nope no way that'll catch on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 At least Motherwell are now giving the Well Society the vote, it’s a pity that Killie are not adopting a similar policy. At least if the fans vote YES you can’t complain that they didn’t consult you. You are preaching to the converted mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tottenmfc Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Now there's a novel approach - wait until you are in full possession of the facts before deciding how to vote. Nope no way that'll catch on. Unless a no vote would definitely mean our club would be in administration / liquidated I doubt anyone would jump from the no camp to the yes camp... There won't be any facts in the documnet received anyway... much like the ridiculous Rangers CVA there are far too many ifs, buts and maybes invloved... the negatives will be weighted towards the worst case scenarios and the positives will be played down so that people aren't overly optimistic. The no camp has never been about financial facts and figures anyway as far as I'm aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Unless a no vote would definitely mean our club would be in administration / liquidated I doubt anyone would jump from the no camp to the yes camp... There won't be any facts in the documnet received anyway... much like the ridiculous Rangers CVA there are far too many ifs, buts and maybes invloved... the negatives will be weighted towards the worst case scenarios and the positives will be played down so that people aren't overly optimistic. The no camp has never been about financial facts and figures anyway as far as I'm aware. Voting "No" meaning liquidation would obviously be the worst case, but what about something the middle? "Cutting our cloth to suit" is a phrase bandied about quite regularly, but in reality that can mean things like making staff redundant. If the financials for "No" meant that we had to lay off half a dozen loyal Fir Park employees and close down 2 of the community projects, it might not be as clear cut. So, like I said earlier, let's see the details first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Unless a no vote would definitely mean our club would be in administration / liquidated I doubt anyone would jump from the no camp to the yes camp... There won't be any facts in the documnet received anyway... much like the ridiculous Rangers CVA there are far too many ifs, buts and maybes invloved... the negatives will be weighted towards the worst case scenarios and the positives will be played down so that people aren't overly optimistic. The no camp has never been about financial facts and figures anyway as far as I'm aware. Agreed, but again without the facts sheer conjencture and not something I'm prepared to act on without having those facts. Only after that will I make my mind up. I would hope that most members would be like-minded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Voting "No" meaning liquidation would obviously be the worst case, but what about something the middle? "Cutting our cloth to suit" is a phrase bandied about quite regularly, but in reality that can mean things like making staff redundant. If the financials for "No" meant that we had to lay off half a dozen loyal Fir Park employees and close down 2 of the community projects, it might not be as clear cut. So, like I said earlier, let's see the details first. That kind of sensible approach, I'm afraid, won't prevail. Not saying that voting "No" is the wrong answer but too many people already have their mind made up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfcmainstand Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 How do we know they will go into the meeting and actually vote the way we say, Whats to stop them doing this just to keep us quiet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Delighted about this....the Club has put OUR fans first...looking forward to getting season tickets for me and the boys now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Sorry if I've missed this bit....but how do we actualy cast our vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 a great decision from the board. hopefully now no matter what happens with the vote we can all go forward and focus on the future of motherwell fc. forgetting about newcos and share transfer i'm delighted to see the society up and functioning and taking responsibility on an important issue. this is the way forward for us as a club and a support. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 How do we know they will go into the meeting and actually vote the way we say, Whats to stop them doing this just to keep us quiet The voting would need to be independently adjudicated to make sure that it was all fair and above board. I am sure that our club will have it all sorted by the time of the vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 How do we know they will go into the meeting and actually vote the way we say, Whats to stop them doing this just to keep us quiet are you being serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Pickle Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 So this means Faddys weans cant vote!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_sevens Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 We will therefore hold a ballot of adult 'Well Society Members and the small number of existing minority shareholders who have yet to join the society, on a 'one member/shareholder-one vote' basis. The results of the ballot will be independently audited and will be used to determine which way the club votes on 4th July. I keep reading this, and I'm still not sure if it means that the board's decision on how the club votes on 4th July will be solely determined by the result of the ballot, or if the result of the ballot will be just one factor taken into consideration when making the decision. Edit: I suppose I'm just asking the same question mfcmainstand asked earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I keep reading this, and I'm still not sure if it means that the board's decision on how the club votes on 4th July will be solely determined by the result of the ballot, or if the result of the ballot will be just one factor taken into consideration when making the decision. Edit: I suppose I'm just asking the same question mfcmainstand asked earlier. Taking the rest of the statement into consideration it has to mean the result of the ballot is how we vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TvTotherwell Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 used to determine which way the club votes on 4th July. The use of Determine would sugest that the outcome of the vote will be our final decision on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellman Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Brilliant news welldone the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 So this means Faddys weans cant vote!? No, but it means that Faddy, and other club legends who signed up can. I wouldn't put it past our media to try and find out who among them voted against the NEWCO and making it public knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_sevens Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 It doesn't say "will determine" - it does say that the result of the ballot will be used, but it doesn't mean that it will be the only thing that is used. I hope I'm wrong about this, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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