phoenix Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 After watching St Mirren winning the league Cup, would we be happy with another cup win or our progress in the League qualifying for Europe? I would take another cup win, but many are happy with European tours, will be interesting to see how the support think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Europe is good to have but I don't see how anyone would prefer 4 games, 4 defeats, 0 goals scored to actually winning some silverware. Perhaps actually qualifying for the Champions League group stages or even the Europa group stages but frankly that's not very likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Lets just win the Scottish Cup.......and qualify for Europe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 1363731151[/url]' post='377290']Lets just win the Scottish Cup.......and qualify for Europe! Last year the answer was Win league Qualify for champions league Win scottish cup Win league cup Qualify for Europa league Now that no. 2 has been achieved it moves to no. 4 The debate on the other thread is comparing a period of time for us to a one off event for St Mirren, on balance the sum of our high points in the past 6 years outweigh the equivalent period for Saints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Cup is better than any European qualification. Progressing to Europa League group stages is however roughly on par with winning a cup for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Nothing will ever match 91. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolhandluc Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Lets just win the Scottish Cup.......and qualify for Europe! What he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Wellfan 2k7 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Take a cup over QUALIFYING for European Competitions, but I could go another year without a cup if we were playing in the group stages of either competition. I think it's a case of success in one, without success in the other. Sadly, we can't have both I'm afraid. Judging by the stance of Scottish Football at the moment, I would take a bottom six finish next season if we lift the Scottish cup again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Take a cup over QUALIFYING for European Competitions, but I could go another year without a cup if we were playing in the group stages of either competition. Pretty much just what I was about to type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC_MKI Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Cup every time for me. It's nice to see us qualify for Europe but being realistic, what does it really equate to for us? A two, possibly four game bit of fluff at the start of the season. We're never going to be able to compete at European level as we just don't have the clout for it. Obviously if we did manage to defy the odds and get past the qualifying rounds then it would be a tremendous achievement for the club but it still wouldn't be equal to or better than a domestic cup win because we wouldn't have won anything and that is what football is all about at the end of the day. Seeing your team winning a major honour at the National Stadium, especially for a provincial club like ours is the greatest thing that we can realistically achieve and it would be a tremendous boost for the club as a whole as it would bring the club, the supporters and the community together, just as it did in 1991 with the wonderful anticipation beforehand and the celebrations afterwards with the open top bus crawling through the town bedecked in Claret & Amber. I would gladly take us never qualifying for Europe via the league ever again if it meant I get to see us win the Cup again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Scottish Cup League Cup SPL Europa League or Champions League or both. I would be happy with one or two off that list three are doable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkySuperSub Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Don't know why, but for me, there is a great deal of difference between the Scottish Cup and the League Cup. I voted cup then on the basis of it being the Scottish. I'm a fussy bastard, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I like the idea of having a good season to qualify for europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Don't know why, but for me, there is a great deal of difference between the Scottish Cup and the League Cup. I voted cup then on the basis of it being the Scottish. I'm a fussy bastard, yes. Same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 No brainer - Cup Win over a Euro Tour. However, if the question was 1 Cup win over a prolonged period of relative success in the League then I'd have answered differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 It's kind of comparing apples and oranges! A one off disappointing league season to win a cup, preferably the Scottish cup would be more than acceptable. Being as turgid as Stmirren for several seasons for a league cup win.... I don't think I'd take that. Same as I wouldn't leave my wife for 1 night with Kelly brook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieb Dykstra Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Whichever one earns most cash for the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedub Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I prefer having a good season and qualifying for Europe. Anything after that is a bonus. Wee teams like ourselves only tend to win cups when we're having a shite or mediocre league campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC_MKI Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I prefer having a good season and qualifying for Europe. Anything after that is a bonus. Wee teams like ourselves only tend to win cups when we're having a shite or mediocre league campaign. That's true to an extent when you consider St.Mirren's success this year and Kilmarnock's last, but we've had plenty of shite/mediocre campaigns since 91 and not won anything so it's no wonder that the desire is there to see us lift silverware again someday soon. For 'younger' fans like me who weren't present or indeed old enough in 91 to see and appreciate just what we had done that day then I am desperate to see us win something again and to be honest the defeat to Celtic two years ago has increased my desire for that to happen all the more. That's why I was more gutted than ever before when we lost to Aberdeen in last year's QF and again in the 4th Round this year because that meant yet another year without a trophy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well_Jaggy Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 League cup? nah. Scottish cup? YES! also it gives the bonus of a Euro spot too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Nothing will ever match 91. Exactly ............. and my justification for my posts in the 'other' thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decorator Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 europe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted March 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I am not sure if we could match 91 ever again but I am sure the generation in 51 & 52 could possibly have said the same, I think we have been spoiled with our achievements in recent years and the qualification for the champions league may never come again but there is just something special being the winning team at Hampden for a major trophy. How many of us could name the team who walked out in Nancy, Odense, panathinaikos, levante? I bet we could name the next cup winning team for generations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Don't know why, but for me, there is a great deal of difference between the Scottish Cup and the League Cup. I voted cup then on the basis of it being the Scottish. I'm a fussy bastard, yes. I've never understood the antipathy towards the League Cup. It's basically the same teams in a cup format. You could actually say because the early rounds are seeded, the top teams get a bye and there are no replays that it's harder to actually win that the League Cup than the Scottish Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 For 'younger' fans like me who weren't present or indeed old enough in 91 to see and appreciate just what we had done that day then I am desperate to see us win something again. I'd been going to games regularly for about 5 seasons when we won the cup. 22 seasons later I'm still waiting for a follow up. It was a great day, an amazing day but I definitely didn't appreciate just how great or how amazing. Sometimes I wonder if it will ever happen again in my life time but at least I did get to experience it once. I really do hope that we win it again so that fans younger than me get that opportunity but just look at Hibernian! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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