Special aka Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 So, if we manage to overcome St Mirren on Thursday, will the Beggarz get the Cooper in the next round ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Triangle Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Don't think so man. They'll probably let Celtic fans in there, I don't think we usually let beggars into the ground for nothing, especially on scottish cup day. Although, if you're a beggar who knew a season ticket holder, you could have got into the Hamilton game for free..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Beggarz, Tims, Filth, Pikeys, Peasants ............. Shellick fans have many pseudonyms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I seriously hope they don't, but sadly I think they will. A home cup tie - we need as many 'Well fans there as possible to get right behind the team and help us progress to the final! It already feels horrible sitting in the East and seeing Old Firm fans at either side of you behind both goals. Actually find it quite intimidating. If they do get the Cooper we'll just need to fill out the East and O'Donnell stands and make as much noise as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 We were given the Cooper for the Rangers League Cup game and didn't even half fill it so I think the answer will be that Celtic get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bop Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I would like to think that we'd get to keep it and reduce the cost of entry to £10-£15. I reckon that would see a near full house. I think this thread is a bit premature, we'v still got St Mirren to overcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Yup, the question will be whether or not we will fill it or not. If Johnny Boyle thinks we will fill it then I do believe we'll get it. I think the natural instict is to say "Celtic in the Scottish cup, Fir Park will be rammed with 'well fans" but as Neil says, we were given it in the League Cup and didny fill it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 They will be lucky to sell out the South stand as Celtic's attendance figures this season in the domestic cup games has been shocking. I would hope we would get the Cooper as we need to make use of any advantage going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 We were given the Cooper for the Rangers League Cup game and didn't even half fill it so I think the answer will be that Celtic get it. we more than half filled it that night, in fact given the circumstances we had a good home crowd that night. Only Boyle's arrogance kept it from falling into our hands then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 The League cup game was midweek and live on the telly v rangers, If we get by St Mirren the game would more than likely be on the telly and then Celtic would never fill the Cooper. We should keep it for the cup game and tell them to fuck off and give them the South only, there would be just as many Well fans fill it being a cup game, all it needs is a bit of promotion and get into the 91 spirit. Sell it as we went north to go through first leg west in a replay to progress, ok miss out falkirk and then Celtic. If we do get by St Mirren it would show a lack of enthusiasm and hope from our club if they get that stand and i would seriously consider my future support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Spark Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 MFC as a club have shown that money is more important to them than their own fans;would therefore be surprised more than anything if they allowed 'well fans into what is/was a home stand The League cup match last season saw a healthy turnout in Cooper stand after 'well fans were effectively put on trial as to whether they could fill it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_mfc Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 In the game where we lost 4-2 to celtic earlier on this season i remember the first third if not half of the cooper to be absolutely empty. I would argue that by giving them the cooper rather than part of the o'donnell actually increases our attendances that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 we more than half filled it that night, in fact given the circumstances we had a good home crowd that night. Only Boyle's arrogance kept it from falling into our hands then. Was in The Coop that night myself - well over half full and a really decent atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 That's right, and that was on a cold Wednesday night, and it was Haloween, so we had a decent turnout that night. We could've sold out every seat in the home end that night, but the attendance would've been announced as 8000 and we'd still have had it taken back off us. Frazzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 MFC as a club have shown that money is more important to them than their own fans To be fair, a club like Motherwell needs it finances run tightly and if I'm not mistaken we are one of the very few clubs in Britain just now who have been running in the black (?). No doubt a result of taking tough decisions like giving the cooper to old firm fans. Without seeing and scrutinizing the club finances we can only assume it's sound a financial decision. Whether it's the right decision or not is entirely subjective. For examples sake, would you be happy with the situation if John Boyle came out and said the extra revenue created from giving the Cooper away allows us to pay Klimpl's wages? That's a pretty straightforward scenario but who knows, I've got a feeling it is as simple as that sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 They tried that emotional blackmail from the start and it didn't work. Nothing can justify pissing off your own fans to acomodate 'them' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I love these arguments. I remember when Nancy dared not give us more than the tickets they did! The argument was "They'd never sell them all" yet Motherwell's board do what Motherwell fans think is right, but it's against them so it's wrong. So weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 If they need to run the finances tightly and make tough decisions, then they need to cut the deadwood from the staff, both on and off the field. The amount of incompetence and questionable attitudes that go unpunished from folk in the club is ridiculous. And do away with the long-running but completely unjustifiable gravy train that exists for the cronies 'upstairs' aswell. Frazzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I love these arguments. I remember when Nancy dared not give us more than the tickets they did! The argument was "They'd never sell them all" yet Motherwell's board do what Motherwell fans think is right, but it's against them so it's wrong. So weird. That's a definite whoosh moment for me that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 That's a definite whoosh moment for me that is Me too, almost gave me a centre parting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 So Wellfan fella that's two auld c***s at a loss to what you meant. Explain yirsel chappie. edit - Fuck ye cannae even use the word c**t in jocular sense, what is this world coming to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Just stop the whinging! Most people, myself included are fully behind the No Means No campaign (see the Celtic thread I opened) but lets be fair, we were not going to sell oot the Cooper, East and O'Donnell stand so why not re-sell already sold seats to make some extra bucks. Attendance might not be up (from pre-Cooper fiasco) but the fact of the matter is the ticket sales are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 lol I'm NO where near as auld as they two auld ćüňťš but i'm even more confused now about what you mean: so why not re-sell already sold seats to make some extra bucks. Attendance might not be up (from pre-Cooper fiasco) but the fact of the matter is the ticket sales are. They were/are not already sold and probably will/would not be anyway? and as for Celtic we've even taking to selling them locally from the ticket office (save the 5% but have to pay rentokill to fumigate the place) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 They were/are not already sold and probably will/would not be anyway? and as for Celtic we've even taking to selling them locally from the ticket office (save the 5% but have to pay rentokill to fumigate the place) Tell me again how seats in the Cooper Stand are not already sold to Season Ticket Holders? If the season ticket holders didn't pay for their seats why the fuck are the moaning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 But you were originally talking about Nancy and MFC's argument that they would never sell them all, so we shold get more as we would sell them? meaning more people in the ground and no one disrupted. were you not? then you switched it round to giving the Cooper to the mauld firm which is where I'm confused they do not sell them anymore and Motherwell fans are disrupted to the point of many not even going the seats I'm talking about not being sold are the many that will be empty wether or not its Celtic or 'Well fans in the Cooper, so they will remain unsold either way and anyway it doesn't really matter, you got a dig in earlier and I got to call them auld cűnts thanks to you reminding us all about character map in the Maroś thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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