Big Stall Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 They obviously fancy him, hence back in for him again. Given that he's contracted, and its only the start of the summer, it would be nice if the board chanced their arm and tried to play hard ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonwellfan Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I think if they can get more of the 400k up front rather than add ons then they will take it. I think a split of 300k/100k will be very tempting to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 If Ojamaa is happy here and has an eye of making it in England, I'd be offering him a deal to make him highest paid player at the club. If he stays, he will be our main man next season and will have better offers than some Polish mob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Sit him down offer him a decent contract with a release clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Punt him and trust McCall to bring someone else in 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuwell Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Just seen on the euro thread that Lech Poznan are one of the seeded teams we could be up against - what's the chances of selling him and then drawing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Punt him and trust McCall to bring someone else in oooohhh, negative reps??!! £400k is a helluva lot of money to us particularly for someone we brought in for hee-haw, just what, 18months ago? Take the cash and use it wisely I say, or else we lose him for fuck all to a pre-contract in January. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 oooohhh, negative reps??!! £400k is a helluva lot of money to us particularly for someone we brought in for hee-haw, just what, 18months ago? Take the cash and use it wisely I say, or else we lose him for fuck all to a pre-contract in January. If we are offered 400k then let him go (as long as McCall is free to spend the cash). 175k plus "add-ons" is much riskier. If they have 400k to spend, let them give it to us up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Just seen on the euro thread that Lech Poznan are one of the seeded teams we could be up against - what's the chances of selling him and then drawing them. If we sell him to them - 1 out of 29 If we don't sell him - 1 out of 29 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell89 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 we should offer him another contract on better terms and keep him here longer so we can demand more money for him if someone comes in! our problem is we sell so cheap or let our players go for nothing! players with half his ability go for 3 or 4 times that kind of money easy across Europe 400k is nothing really if he is the difference between a few league spots, a cup game, a EL qualifying game! just look at his assist from last season, where would we be without him this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi-1991 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 The problem we have is we havw reputation for letting players go for far less than their value so teams just rip the piss with rediculous offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell89 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 yep, the guy they want him to replace is supposedly going to Celtic for 2 million! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 I thought a players salary and remaining time on contract were generally indicators of a players transfer value? Obviously there's not a formula as such, but to say that a player contracted for another 50 weeks @ £2000 pw is worth more than 400k seems a stretch! If we paid better wages or tied players up on longer contracts (I'm not suggesting we should) we possibly would command higher fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyS88 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 we should offer him another contract on better terms and keep him here longer so we can demand more money for him if someone comes in! our problem is we sell so cheap or let our players go for nothing! players with half his ability go for 3 or 4 times that kind of money easy across Europe 400k is nothing really if he is the difference between a few league spots, a cup game, a EL qualifying game! just look at his assist from last season, where would we be without him this season! If we had another season of loss like last one, 400k would be the difference between admin and not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 We're skint. Where's all the 400K is nothing patter coming from? Not an ideal situation, but punt him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell89 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Point isn't the difference between 2nd place and 3rd like 500k?actually STV says it's 920k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 That's miles out of date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Wellfan 2k7 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 The difference between 2nd and 3rd is only about 5% now down from 9% the season before last. (Can't be sure of exact figures, but I'm sure it's something in that ball park) Regardless of the transfer fee, we are still down around 400k in terms of the team who finished 2nd before us. So I would be more than happy for him to move on at that value plus add ons BUT not at the 175k plus add ons. That would just mean the club are losing money and losing a talented player. We need to, at the very least break even from our transfers. So if Lech Poznan are wanting OJamaa they really need to raise their bid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Point isn't the difference between 2nd place and 3rd like 500k?actually STV says it's 920k According to SPL a few months ago it is half that 1 £2,405,000 2 £1,718,000 3 £1,460,000 4 £1,289,000 5 £1,203,000 6 £1,117,000 7 £1,057,000 8 £1,005,000 9 £988,000 10 £902,000 11 £816,000 12 £730,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number8 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) As Estonian I really hope Henrik stays in Motherwell then goes to Poland where there's so many financial problems for several clubs. For example Polonia Warsaw didn't get top league license for the next season and were relegated to 2nd league (even tho they finished the season in 6th) cause they haven't payed any salary for their players since last year. Edited May 28, 2013 by Number8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 As Estonian I really hope Henrik stays in Motherwell then goes to Poland where there's so many financial problems for several clubs. For example Polonia Warsaw didn't get top league license for the next season and were relegated to 2nd league (even tho they finished the season in 6th) cause they haven't payed any salary for their players since last year. That's another reason I would want all 400k in the bank up front rather than any sketchy future add-ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 As Estonian I really hope Henrik stays in Motherwell then goes to Poland where there's so many financial problems for several clubs. For example Polonia Warsaw didn't get top league license for the next season and were relegated to 2nd league (even tho they finished the season in 6th) cause they haven't payed any salary for their players since last year. We have this system in Scotland too. It's called Sevco. In all seriousness. If the offer for Henrik is around the 400k number then I think Motherwell would find it very hard to turn that down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Also a few people on here saying we don't get enough money selling in players. Anyone ever think about the fact maybe no one is buying or if they are the offers are shite. Motherwell have had offers for hutchy law randy Ojamma and Murphy and only accepted the later and he then knocked them back. Clubs have sussed the Scottish market and know we have most if our players on short term contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell89 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 so ignoring this seasons one off?, 2nd place prize money carve up to help the other clubs finances this is the reporting of the new propsals from the society briefing on the original reconstruction doesnt seem that much different although no real numbers were given only overall amounts note: the lower SFL clubs dont actually request all that much fuding, in fact nothing more from the SPL pot, but the somewhat faked good of the game line being fed seems more to be for the good of any of the SPL clubs who drop out for a a few seasons now if only the top position in the whole sorry house of cards was to truly give up a fair portion of the prize money then everyone could sahre and get more than the stand off is asking for: http://sport.stv.tv/...reconstruction/ Pos.SPL current/proposed change SFLproposed change 1 2720000 2405514 -314487 2405514 -314487 2 2400000 1717454 -682546 1717454 -682546 3 1520000 1460555 -59446 1460555 -59446 4 1360000 1288629 -71371 1288091 -71910 5 1280000 1202757 -77243 1201859 -78142 6 1200000 1116884 -83116 1117423 -82577 7 1120000 1056701 -63299 1056342 -63658 8 1040000 1005142 -34858 1006040 -33960 9 960000 987895 27895 988075 28075 10 880000 902023 22023 901843 21843 11 800000 816150 16150 815611 15611 12 720000 730277 10277 729379 9379 13 68000 386248 318248 323370 255370 14 67000 343132 276132 287440 220440 15 66000 300016 234016 251510 185510 16 65000 256900 191900 215580 150580 17 64000 240731 176731 197615 133615 18 62000 188633 126633 170668 108668 19 61000 172464 111464 161685 100685 20 60000 154499 94499 152703 92703 21 59000 138331 79331 143720 84720 22 57000 120366 63366 125755 68755 23 56000 102401 46401 89825 33825 24 55000 86232 31232 88029 33029 25 54000 56769 2769 82639 28639 26 53000 52099 -902 77250 24250 27 51000 51200 200 73657 22657 28 50000 50302 302 68267 18267 39 49000 49404 404 66471 17471 30 48000 48506 506 64674 16674 31 47000 46709 -291 62878 15878 32 45000 44913 -88 61081 16081 33 44000 43116 -884 59285 15285 34 43000 42218 -782 57488 14488 35 42000 41320 -681 55692 13692 36 40000 40421 421 53895 13895 37 39000 39523 523 52099 13099 38 38000 38625 625 50302 12302 39 37000 37727 727 48506 11506 40 36000 35930 -70 46709 10709 41 34000 34134 134 44913 10913 42 33000 32337 -663 43116 10116 this is what i was looking at? isn't the change too 1717454 just a proposal? Scottish football is really confusing, also funny that team 42 gets what the sfa get in pay rises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell89 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 According to SPL a few months ago it is half that 1 £2,405,000 2 £1,718,000 3 £1,460,000 4 £1,289,000 5 £1,203,000 6 £1,117,000 7 £1,057,000 8 £1,005,000 9 £988,000 10 £902,000 11 £816,000 12 £730,000 still, where would we have finished without those assists! know one knows but we do know he is a really big player for us and we could lose money by selling him for the 170k (+ rest we might never get) 700k difference from finishing where we budgeted to finish and where we did finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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