Yabba's Turd Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Heggarty was 'old school', a bullying cunt of a man, watched the reserves during his time and it was fucking horrific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 That is really weird reading that report. Last time Motherwell and relegation battle appeared together, its only got better since those days Really? Have you ever read some of the apocalyptic shite on here if we lose or draw or don't have >50% possession etc etc Relegation dogfight is regularly trotted out as a possibility round here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Jules Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Well i'm not saying its the right thing tae dae but its in a motherwell fans nature tae smash the panic button at the first sign of trouble, after the years of administration and finishing bottom of the league etc i can kinda understand it, i have been guilty of that in past but i've got better with age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 So it's confirmed then, Gannon's tenure wisnae actually as bad as you all make out? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamH Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 1378837711[/url]' post='395638']Aye. I listened to it on the radio and hearing Malpas voice after the match was truly depressing. His monotone pish pouring out. I'm pretty sure it was after that game that Malpas said "it's just your Donald Duck. Once the players cross that white line there's very little a manager can do". I think he also mentioned the players being in "holiday mode". Should have been told to beat it at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 So it's confirmed then, Gannon's tenure wisnae actually as bad as you all make out? Nor was it anywhere near as good as McGhee's, Browns or McCalls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 I always said Brown should be have been punted at the end of his first season. He did the job he came for (to add a wee bit of stability), but was a poor decision to keep him on after that as he was never the man the take the club forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Heggarty was 'old school', a bullying cunt of a man, watched the reserves during his time and it was fucking horrific Wasn't so brave when one of the youth teams' parents asked for a word in his shell-like across the field at Dalziel Park... John Boyle admitted as much to 'taking his eye off the ball' with messrs Malpas & Heggarty, the rest as they say is history and it's been some journey to be fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Nor was it anywhere near as good as McGhee's, Browns or McCalls Not the question, stop deflecting, a simple aye or naw would suffice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 I always said Brown should be have been punted at the end of his first season. He did the job he came for (to add a wee bit of stability), but was a poor decision to keep him on after that as he was never the man the take the club forward. Bit unfair that, although he made some odd decisions during his spell, he was also the manager that came closest to taking us to the promised land of the group stages, and in all honesty, would've done if Blackman/Murphy/Humphrey/Sutton had taken any of their chances. Unlike Malpas, that time the manager can only do so much. Brown picked the right players and the right team to win that night, but they just couldn't finish them off. Yeah, running off to Aberdeen was shite, but like McGhee before, I've mellowed somewhat given the outcome of their times there, which were far better for us than them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 I always said Brown should be have been punted at the end of his first season. He did the job he came for (to add a wee bit of stability), but was a poor decision to keep him on after that as he was never the man the take the club forward. when he left we were sitting having P.14 W.7 D.2 L.5 F.22 A.16 which was a decent record, we were in the league cup semi final and had had a decent run in europe. the week at the start of november when we won in inverness on the saturday then hammered st johnstone 4-0 midweek everything looked to be going great (alan gow apart). sacking the manager after the euphoria of 6-6 and 3-3 wouldn't have been very in keeping with the way the club operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 He wouldn't have been sacked though (given that he didn't have a contract). He joined on an agreement to stay until the end of the season. There was nothing agreed beyond that point. His track record was not good in building teams or developing clubs - and that wasn't an issue, because it was never part of his brief. I have no problems with the job he did in his initial spell, but would have preferred new blood (like a McCall) as soon as possible after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 I remember the start of the Jim Gannon era with a lot of hope and excitement. The first couple of month or so went really well and things were looking good, young players coming through and the team playing well. However I think some folk are forgetting how bad it actually was after that initial period. While his sacking was mainly down to factors away from the results on the pitch, the team were absolutely shocking in that period. Gannon won only 1 of his last 10 games at Motherwell, conceding 25 goals! His head was stuck so far up his own arse that despite shipping goals for fun he never once in an SPL match started with Craigan and Reynolds. (As far as I remember) The first thing Brown did when he came in was revert back to Craigan and Reynolds in the centre of defence, the result? 2 goals conceded in the next 10 SPL games. I fully believe that if Gannon hadn't got the bullet, the slide would have continued and we'd have been in serious trouble. I pretty much agree in essence with every thing you say here except there are some factual errors. Gannon only won 1 of his last 11 games if you include the 0-3 defeat in the League Cup to St. Mirren. Secondly he did play Reynolds and Craigan together on a number of occasions, actually 7 out of 17 league matches. However Craigan being frozen out from the team more or less coincided with the arse falling out our season, culminating in the embarrassing 6-1 defeat by Rangers. Craigan was brought back after that, for what turned out to be Gannon's last match in charge, the absolutely dire humping at Fir Park from St. Johnstone. Reynolds and Hateley were the only players to start every league game under Gannon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Reynolds and Hateley were the only players to start every league game under Gannon. That must be why I don't like the cunt! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 That must be why I didn't like the cunt! Don't kid yourself, you bought into the early season optimism like the rest of us. It didn't pan out as we hoped but it looked promising. I liked his idea of blooding the youngsters and giving them time to learn on the job. If he could have found a way of doing that without alienating others at the club, it could have worked out a lot differently. No respecter of sacred cows. Always questioning the authorities Giving young players a chance. It was his way or you were out. Sounds a lot like Alex Ferguson at Aberdeen to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Ok. I fixed my original post, but I was the first of our group to turn on him. Like I said earlier, I'm glad he came but I'm also glad he went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain7_mfc Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Am i right in saying, during that horrific Dunfermline game, Reynolds actually got shown his first card of his career in the Motherwell first team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 A slightly harsh straight red for a dubious hand ball was it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 A slightly harsh straight red for a dubious hand ball was it not? did he not almost catch a ball over the top that would have sent a dunfermline player through on goal? very similar to the one desperate dan got no booking for in the cup final when he was at least due a second yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Secondly he did play Reynolds and Craigan together on a number of occasions, actually 7 out of 17 league matches. reynolds would have been playing at left back or midfield in a few of those games, definitely at mcdiarmid and at home to killie. subbing craigan off at halftime when we were 0-0 against ten men accies and putting hateley to centrehalf was a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Gannon's like Marmite, we get it. Close the thread FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 The option to stop opening it is available.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk_in_drublic Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 We're jus having a chat about bygone days and a couple of old managers. Reminiscing of shite. But it's been good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 The usual sort of thing that comes up when there's an international break. Just don't get people started on McGhee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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