weeyin Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I will never like a keeper who insists on punching and palming shots when gathering it in is a better if slightly trickier option. All those who bemoaned Hollis at the end of August and called for Gunnar's inclusion, any red faces? I don't disagree, but people on here were raving over what a fantastic keeper Twardzik was and he was of the punching/palming variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Going to be a frustrating afternoon by the sounds of it, Seems a ridiculous defensive setup in the face of the free scoring champions a measure of our small budget and squad, or McCalls refusal to play reserve squad players we'll not really know I hope like St Mirren and Partick where we had similar stupid defence positioning choices, the attacking threat can lift us out of the mire. its his choice and works out more than not, so he keeps more praise over the minor criticism, but Hammy at RB in a defensive role hasn't worked before, lets hope his ability to deliver crosses, bails us out. we'll get chances, just wonder if we'll score more than they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Celtic haven't done much since the goal. At least we are playing football in their half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Jules Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Ok thats us beat but as it stands every other result is going for us. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I don't disagree, but people on here were raving over what a fantastic keeper Twardzik was and he was of the punching/palming variety. Twardzik no doubt benefited joining a team where the two results prior to his arrival were awful, that in turn spurred on a few under-performers to start showing why we signed them, against sides mostly in the bottom half of the table and no doubt aided by the fact that Hollis haters quickly added Gunnar to their repertoire so anyone new was going to be welcomed. He didn't have the physical presence in goal I'd become accustomed to (granted we were spoiled with Ruddy and Randy). I didn't see the penalty decision, was he at fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsMFC Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 2-0 down & most likely game over but we've actually played reasonably well & had some chances. Feel sorry for big Gunnar but we really need a better keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Played tidy at times so far but it's turning out to be the same old story. You've never got a genuine chance when you've got a flipping clown in goals. On both trips to Parkhead this season, poor goalkeeping has thrown the gameplan out the window. Get Twardzik back asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 it'll be interesting to see if we change anything at half time. ainsworth has barely been involved and mcfadden is miles out his depth against two athletic centrebacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 When you build a team and its tactics on open expansive play, it's no surprise that they can't switch to more negative tactics a couple of times a season. I can somewhat understand it in a Euro game against superior opposition (although I don't necessarily agree with it), but in a league game when only 3 points are at stake, just go and play the style that has been picking up points and see what happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 he brought lawson in on boxing day to shore things up and it was succesful in terms of the result. i think lawson is pish but today is surely the type of game where he would be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 On the money weeyin, all this talk of being at our best and Celtic at their worst nonsense, ICT under Butcher went there and repeatedly gave them a game. McCall's caution vs this mob hasn't really worked on their turf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I can somewhat understand it in a Euro game against superior opposition (although I don't necessarily agree with it), but in a league game when only 3 points are at stake, just go and play the style that has been picking up points and see what happens. Like it or not McCall explained in his pre match chat on the BBC why he doesn’t set his team out this way against Celtic. Personally I would just have a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Like it or not McCall explained in his pre match chat on the BBC why he doesn't set his team out this way against Celtic. Personally I would just have a go. this is us having a go. vigurs, mcfadden, sutton and ainsworth all offer nothing defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 FFs 3-0 McManus og least said about tbis game the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 We don't need to say much about it tho. It's all about next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 FFs 3-0 McManus og least said about tbis game the better Fair play tae McManus he's having a right good go at Craigans own goal record. That must be 4 so far this season ,good shooting big man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 We don't need to say much about it tho. It's all about next week Agree arguably our biggest game of the season thus far next week. (Aberdeen at firpark) Another poor result against Celtic but with Aberdeen losing at home tae Inverness and Dundee United continuing to free fall with another bad result at Ross county ,all in all no that bad a day after all. Edit. And I see St jston dropped 2 points after conceding two late goals tae Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Like it or not McCall explained in his pre match chat on the BBC why he doesn’t set his team out this way against Celtic. Personally I would just have a go. "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" If he could identify the points we had picked up at Parkhead and Ibrox using this strategy, then there would be some justification. It has, however, been a demonstrable failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I would agree with that Weeyin. It's a shame that we just have to write these games off and hope the score can be kept semi respectable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 this is us having a go. vigurs, mcfadden, sutton and ainsworth all offer nothing defensively. But the formation and tactics that were imposed on them were still negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Draw a line under this game folks. It's all about next week. Be marvellous if we can get a decent keeper in for it. Must be someone we can get on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsMFC Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Always disappointing to lose but none of our rivals gained on us so not the worst day after all. Hoping we can get the same reaction we did after the last defeat to Celtic, a win next week would be massive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well 4 Europe Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I gave up watching around the time the third goal went in but from what I saw we certainly weren't awful. At 1-0 and 2-0 Sutton and Faddy respectively both missed golden chances from less than 10 yards out. You score them who knows but you can't miss chances like that at Celtic Park and expect to come away with anything. Nor can you defend like we did and expect to get anything. Always the same, miss good chances and gift cheap goals away down the other end. A real shitter today but Aberdeen and Dundee United both losing was a real bonus. Aberdeen next week is a massive game, should be a cracker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 But the formation and tactics that were imposed on them were still negative. all we did was rattle long balls up at mcfadden and sutton which was hopeless. beyond that i didn't see much evidence of tactics. the formation was positive with two up top and ainsworth and vigurs playing their usual games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 That is Celtic out the way for us anyway. No ground lost on Aberdeen and United. Even Hibs lost and St J picked up only the one point. All in all it could have been a lot worse. Don't like losing but hardly surprising. Celtic scored 3 goals today, but so did Ross County, St Mirren FFs....... We move on - BIG game next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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