Kmcalpin Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Pure speculation from both of us, but I found his contribution underwhleming last season and not worth his top earner status. If we had paid someone else less money that could have played 30 games, I think we would still have finished second. Two seasons ago, he was definitely worth it. Pretty much agree with that. I understand the decision to leave was mutual. If Faddy has got that much left in him he won't be signing for Partick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makaveli Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Think the problem with Faddy is the fans here already loved him.. Moving to a team like Partick is ideal.. they're not one of our rivals and not only does it give him a bit of freshness it gives him the challenge of trying to win over a new set of supporters. A new challenge. All the best to Faddy wherever he goes though... think for us he was too much of a sentimental signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi-1991 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Ironically if Ojamaa did come back it would have benefited McFadden more than last years set up as Ojamaa plays wider and can make space for someone like Faddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishielad Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Although his limited playing time restricted his contribution, I think Ainsworh and Vigurs had a far bigger impact in the games in which they played with Faddy and I think he linked particularly well with those two. Agree, entirely with previous remarks about how he tracked back and tried to contribute defensively. I, also, think he'd be an asset in European games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I think back to the statement on the fishal site back in May, it seemed pretty final which I found surprising. One thing is clear, I don't think he'd behave like Higginbottom if he scored against us ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Ironically if Ojamaa did come back it would have benefited McFadden more than last years set up as Ojamaa plays wider and can make space for someone like Faddy. Unfortunately I doubt that Ojamaa would even be in the conversation (assuming he is at the moment, of course) if we'd given Faddy a new contract. I know who I'd rather have if it were a choice between both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambunctious Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I think I'd almost be more upset if we signed Faddy than if Partick did. I love the man but I don't think he's the player we need, and McCall obviously feels the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 One thing is clear, I don't think he'd behave like Higginbottom if he scored against us ...... Because he had been with us long enough to know how many sensitive wee petals we have in the East Stand? Football would be pretty boring if you had to censor your goal celebrations against any club you had a connection with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Because he had been with us long enough to know how many sensitive wee petals we have in the East Stand? Football would be pretty boring if you had to censor your goal celebrations against any club you had a connection with. Not simply about censoring your celebration, more about not feeling compelled to do the "get it right up you". There is a middle ground. Like you, I find the not celebrating against a former side a bit silly (Jim Hamilton would never have celebrated a goal), but Higginbotham seemed more concerned with our support than the Thistle fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuwell Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 To be fair Higginbotham was getting some pelters from our fans - including me - so I feel it was as much a shut the fuck up as a get it up you, which is fair enough in my books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tottenmfc Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Not simply about censoring your celebration, more about not feeling compelled to do the "get it right up you". There is a middle ground. Like you, I find the not celebrating against a former side a bit silly (Jim Hamilton would never have celebrated a goal), but Higginbotham seemed more concerned with our support than the Thistle fans... To be fair, some of our fans seemed to be more concerned with dishing out abuse to a player who played with us on loan briefly and was never offered the chance to stay than with the game. If I was in his position I would have did exactly the same. For what it's worth I reckon Higginbotham could definitely improve the squad we have at the moment simply by offering a bit of width and creativity but that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Anyone who has the temerity to boo Faddy should he come back and play against us - should be taken and shot at dawn. The caveat there is if he was to come back as a Celtic player, then it would almost be justifiable but that ship has sailed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Scott Allan, a player that many would liked to have seen here, signs for Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Realistically, how much will last nights shambles effect our ability to bring in the player(s) we are so desperately in need of? Right now, it really would take Ojamaa coming back to give any optimism!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Don't think we can afford anyone now. McCall has fucked us good and proper and I genuinely fear for our financial future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I seriously doubt that the club would have been banking on any extra European money to make signings, they would likely have considered any extra cash as a bonus, so it's onwards as planned I'd guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I seriously doubt that the club would have been banking on any extra European money to make signings, they would likely have considered any extra cash as a bonus, so it's onwards as planned I'd guess. Nonsense. Are you telling me that the club wouldn't have banked on us beating a Welsh or Icelandic part-time outfit over 2 legs? McCall has fucked us over well and truly with his diabolical tactics. There's only 1 place to point the finger at if we don't make any more signings and that's at the management team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Nonsense. Are you telling me that the club wouldn't have banked on us beating a Welsh or Icelandic part-time outfit over 2 legs? Aye, that's exactly what I'm telling you. There's no chance the club "banked" on us winning. They may have thought about what they could do with the extra money if we did win, but there's no way they banked on a win. Plans will have been made under the assumption that the winners purse wouldn't be arriving. I think that's pretty much how every club goes about their business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Aye, that's exactly what I'm telling you. There's no chance the club "banked" on us winning. They may have thought about what they could do with the extra money if we did win, but there's no way they banked on a win. Plans will have been made under the assumption that the winners purse wouldn't be arriving. I think that's pretty much how every club goes about their business. If that's true, then that just sums up everything that's wrong with Motherwell FC at the moment. A club that in previous seasons have budgeted for Top 6 finishes and cup quarter-final appearences, all of a sudden feel a bit shaky about a part-time outfit, over 180 minutes of football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 If that's true, then that just sums up everything that's wrong with Motherwell FC at the moment. A club that in previous seasons have budgeted for Top 6 finishes and cup quarter-final appearences, all of a sudden feel a bit shaky about a part-time outfit, over 180 minutes of football? That's just good business in my book. I'm thinking they've probably budgeted before we knew who we were playing in the qualifiers, so any money earned in Europe would have been a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 McCall was talking about bringing in players on loan a few weeks ago. I doubt that will have changed given that his budget is the same this year and we have already cut a couple of high earners. However, assuming our loanees are from down south, we need to wait until the English clubs have finalised their squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Nonsense. Are you telling me that the club wouldn't have banked on us beating a Welsh or Icelandic part-time outfit over 2 legs? McCall has fucked us over well and truly with his diabolical tactics. There's only 1 place to point the finger at if we don't make any more signings and that's at the management team. We have the same playing budget as last year and Faddy and Hutch (both higher earners I presume) have moved on. Why won't we be making any more signings? And if we do, do we get to point the finger at people on here jumping to conclusions? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 That's just good business in my book. I'm thinking they've probably budgeted before we knew who we were playing in the qualifiers, so any money earned in Europe would have been a bonus. You are missing the point. Our bullish budgeting in recent years has led us to the verge of shit creek. But all of a sudden a win against a pub team will be treated as a wee bonus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 after watching the highlights a goalkeeper and a centrehalf have to be the priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 You are missing the point. Our bullish budgeting in recent years has led us to the verge of shit creek. But all of a sudden a win against a pub team will be treated as a wee bonus? And you've missed my point. I'm simply saying that no football club worth its salt will plan their finances on the basis that they will reach a certain level of European football, especially when that club is operating with the playing staff we have, who notoriously blow hot & cold. If our directors went into this tie thinking "aye, we'll get through no bother. How much are we making in the next round? stick that on the accounts already" then they're fucking mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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