Frazzie Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 So why hasn't it so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Well Ainsworth was only half fit in a couple of games and Ojamaa, by his own admission, was lacking a full pre-season. Law, has never played at this level and could take a few more weeks to get up to the required fitness level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxywell Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Well Ainsworth was only half fit in a couple of games and Ojamaa, by his own admission, was lacking a full pre-season. Law, has never played at this level and could take a few more weeks to get up to the required fitness level. Most of Hamilton's players have never played at this level and they look fit enough. Our shit start can be traced back to our pre season or lack of, we should have had more proper friendlies not closed door kick abouts and the 'training camp' in Portugal was pretty much a wee holiday for the players.Most of them have come back short of fitness and in a league where there's not much between a lot of teams that makes a big difference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 the 'training camp' in Portugal was pretty much a wee holiday for the players. ...and what evidence is that based on? It seems to be a common train of thought on here that we did nothing in Portugal and it was a holiday. I find that very hard to believe.The reports were double training sessions were the order of the day. We also have been in Portugal before and nobody questioned it when we had a decent start. Are we basing the 'holiday' idea on the fact we posted a couple of youtube videos of the players not training and having a bit of fun? Or is it just a knee jerk reaction and assumption/guess to the poor start to the season and apparent lack of match fitness? Don't get me wrong - I do agree in general about what you say around why we have had a poor start to the season but a holiday? I think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Most of Hamilton's players have never played at this level and they look fit enough. Well guys like Scotland and Antoine-Courier didn't look that fit last season, never mind this one. However, the step up to the SPFL from the Championship is much smaller than the step up from the 5th tier of English football to the SPFL (despite what the English might have you believe). Plus Law's club went part-time at the end of the 2012-2013 season. So yes, I think part time Conference Premier to SPFL is just a wee bit more of a leap than Scottish Championship to SPFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Our shit start can be traced back to our pre season or lack of, we should have had more proper friendlies not closed door kick abouts and the 'training camp' in Portugal was pretty much a wee holiday for the players.Most of them have come back short of fitness and in a league where there's not much between a lot of teams that makes a big difference. I don't think you are giving enough thought to how long and grueling each season is for a small squad like ours and time it takes to recover physically and mentally. We were back playing competitive football almost 3 weeks before the majority of the other teams in the league. The players will still be carrying wee niggles and we can't afford to risk players when there is still 30 odd games to play. A squad like ours has got to be very carefully managed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxywell Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 I don't think you are giving enough thought to how long and grueling each season is for a small squad like ours and time it takes to recover physically and mentally. We were back playing competitive football almost 3 weeks before the majority of the other teams in the league. The players will still be carrying wee niggles and we can't afford to risk players when there is still 30 odd games to play. A squad like ours has got to be very carefully managed. I don't buy into that sort of thinking that it's been a long hard season and players need months to recover.They had a month off to recover and the least that should be expected of professional footballers is to keep themselves fit during the break.Fair enough they won't be match sharp, more friendlies would've helped with that but when 3/4 of our key players are knackered after an hour then there's clearly something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Wellfan 2k7 Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 We are going to lose this game, but this slow start will hopefully mean we have a rampant end to the season! I'd rather be shit now than be shit in May! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 ...and what evidence is that based on? I think it's based on us blowing out our arse every match this season. I don't know what we did in Portugal but as I've already said constantly giving the ball away and chasing games doesn't help matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 I think it's based on us blowing out our arse every match this season. I don't know what we did in Portugal but as I've already said constantly giving the ball away and chasing games doesn't help matters. My question was more about the Portugal/holiday element. You will see from my previous posts I agree our training in pre season was not fitness based enough but to call the Portugal trip a holiday with no basis is off the mark and jumping to a conclusion based on no evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Two unnamed players who featured at Kilmarnock face late fitness tests, according to the pre-match preview email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StipeIsGod Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Hope it ain't an actual test of athletic fitness, so much as a 'can you still walk' test, or we'd labour to put 11 out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Giving this game a miss. I've never known an injury crisis like this at the start of a season in all my years all because we played on an astro turf pitch in europe? Unbelievable there's got to be something wrong with our training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Good to know the players can count on your support Dewell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Giving this game a miss. I've never known an injury crisis like this at the start of a season in all my years all because we played on an astro turf pitch in europe? Unbelievable there's got to be something wrong with our training. There's certainly something wrong with your reading, because nobody ever said all our injuries were because of an astroturf pitch in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 I am going along to this one with more hope than expectation. Mon the Well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortonhallwell Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Good to know the players can count on your support Dewell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 hopefully we will see a reaction today. st johnstone will be confident after the hammering they gave us in the midweek game and tommy wright will be telling them they can dominate us in the middle of the park. it's up to our players to step up and match them physically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Good to know the players can count on your support Dewell maybe if they leave him one of their free tickets he might go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East_Stand_Al Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 I am going along to this one with more hope than expectation. Mon the Well! Is that different from any other game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn_Broomfield Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Most of Hamilton's players have never played at this level and they look fit enough. Our shit start can be traced back to our pre season or lack of, we should have had more proper friendlies not closed door kick abouts and the 'training camp' in Portugal was pretty much a wee holiday for the players.Most of them have come back short of fitness and in a league where there's not much between a lot of teams that makes a big difference. the AccIes players are going to personal trainers after training to improve their fitness and have been doing strength and conditioning training too. Patrick have employed a PT for this season for S&C training. Cummings has just started PT because he believes he could be fitter. McNamara has completely changed United's training regime because he was unhappy with the squads fitness and training methods. We're miles behind every team in the league on fitness for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 You can list as many examples of that as you like, but the fact still remains that we would stroll a foot-golf tournament against any one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 . Cummings has just started PT because he believes he could be fitter. credit to cummins for this. he was moving like a man 14 years his senior in his appearances last season, if he wants a career in football it's something he'll need to work hard at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Twardzik Reid O'Brien McManus Angol Ainsworth Lasley Lawson Law Ojaama Sutton Erwin, Leitch and Ramsden among the subs, no Vigurs or Thomas.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebsbarmyarmy Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Lawson instead of Leitch.... WTF You having a laugh???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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