Onthefringes Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 According to the Sun this morning, Adams has pulled out due to uncertainty over club ownership... 'days before he was due to get interviewed', 'declined their invitation' - I'll be stunned if that was the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 'days before he was due to get interviewed', 'declined their invitation' - I'll be stunned if that was the case. So would I. If it is true then it is an angry, disrespectful bullet dodged in my eyes anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Shiels would fit in with the community remit and would give the young ones an opportunity in first team. Knows how to win a cup for a provincial club too. His own intensity tends to undermine him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Shiels would fit in with the community remit and would give the young ones an opportunity in first team. Knows how to win a cup for a provincial club too. His own intensity tends to undermine him though. It's this intensity that made him out as erratic as Jim Gannon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Kenny Shiels is a fucking banger....jeezo, I hope the other '4' names hold more appeal than that looney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Must confess that none of the names mentioned either by the media or the bookies fill me with confidence. Can't think of anyone who would get me excited and interested again. So in the position of hoping that it's not any of the uninspiring names that I've read without having the first clue who I'd actually be happy with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Kenny Shiels? Gie me strength. Straight from the Jim Gannon school of management. A absolute loonball, and he made an arse of things at Morton in his last gig. No thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn_Broomfield Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Tough times call for tough measures. Get on the Batphone to Mr James Gannon to take us up to the end of the season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 The names the media has quoted during our last few appointments have been well wide of the mark. I have no reason to think they will be any more accurate this time. It seems they get most of their info from speculation on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 The names the media has quoted during our last few appointments have been well wide of the mark. I have no reason to think they will be any more accurate this time. It seems they get most of their info from speculation on here. The potential candidates should be asked to provide a statement of their abilities and their plans for the club on this forum, then the fans could decide and have a vote to recommend a name to the board. A good democracy excersise in case the WS get control of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chummy Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Just saw on Sky Sport News that we have whittled it down to 5 candidates from Britain and abroad...Black not one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 1417632446[/url]' post='426155']Just saw on Sky Sport News that we have whittled it down to 5 candidates from Britain and abroad...Black not one of them. None of them coloured? That's fine by me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Now Now Malky you already have a job.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Club has to be clever on this, didn't one of two at the time McCall was appointed take the hump they weren't the first choice (Sbragia?) With respect to Black, I would imagine the board know as soon as McCall gets a new gig he will follow quickly afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Hopefully the board will show a bit more nous when appointing the next guy as opposed to McCall. We need a guy that will introduce and develop youth with the intent of selling on at a healthy profit if at all possible. So, the diametric opposite of McCall. McCall came from the Walter Smith school of management where you have teams filled with experience. That can be OK but I don't think it is the way forward for us. I'd also like to see us do away with loan deals. They can be good, yes, and we have benefitted, yes, but they snuff out development and send the wrong message to youth and fringe players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/543330/Terry-Butcher-Motherwell-Return Not much in this story other than it looking like it is based on odds rather than any sort of inside info. Worth posting anyway as Scott Burns is usually pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Club has to be clever on this, didn't one of two at the time McCall was appointed take the hump they weren't the first choice (Sbragia?) With respect to Black, I would imagine the board know as soon as McCall gets a new gig he will follow quickly afterwards. Would he be though? Was Black not already in place for McCall arriving or put in place by the club rather than by the manager? EDIT: Turns out I was wrong. Black came in after wee Stu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmac Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 If Butcher is indeed set to return - though there are other candidates - I, like many others I'm sure, would doubt if I would be. He came, did us a turn, we finished bottom and then consistently in the lower half with some of the most laboured football I've ever seen at fir park (second to his certain assistant malpish). His biggest achievement was the cup final where we absolutely shat it against rangers (which lets be honest, from the way he used to conduct his press conferences before these games was no wonder with his doom laden chat).He is not what we need! We need someone with vision, new ideas, a restructuring approach and fresh take on shaping a scottish club, not one from the manager carousel.An awful appointment imo, showing once again a lack of long term vision and desire from the club, it would truly cement a new era of rut surrounding Motherwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 If Butcher is indeed set to return - though there are other candidates - I, like many others I'm sure, would doubt if I would be. He came, did us a turn, we finished bottom and then consistently in the lower half with some of the most laboured football I've ever seen at fir park (second to his certain assistant malpish). His biggest achievement was the cup final where we absolutely shat it against rangers (which lets be honest, from the way he used to conduct his press conferences before these games was no wonder with his doom laden chat).He is not what we need! We need someone with vision, new ideas, a restructuring approach and fresh take on shaping a scottish club, not one from the manager carousel.An awful appointment imo, showing once again a lack of long term vision and desire from the club, it would truly cement a new era of rut surrounding Motherwell I am pretty confident we will not go with Terry Butcher and its purely a story based on the moving of odds. However, I could see us going with Kenny Shiels. I am not a fan but, when he is not riled up in a press conference or interview, he does talk a good game and a good philosophy. I could imagine him interviewing well and ticking a few boxes. Not for me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Butcher would be backward step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Made Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Apparently the Scotsman suggests it's Shiels we'll make the move for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I am pretty confident we will not go with Terry Butcher and its purely a story based on the moving of odds. However, I could see us going with Kenny Shiels. I am not a fan but, when he is not riled up in a press conference or interview, he does talk a good game and a good philosophy. I could imagine him interviewing well and ticking a few boxes. Not for me though. Fairly confident neither are on the shortlist... Oops, cat out the bag! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim64 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Shiels/Butcher FFS noooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacol Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Kenny Shiels' agent is very good at touting his name for any job going. I'm pretty sure he will not be the next manager of Motherwell.Either will Butcher and Kenny Black will probably be assistant to McCall at Ibrox before we even appoint a new manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 To be honest i don't care who we get as the next manager, i will judge them on their results and how they ensure we finish at least 10th and no lower this season. Given the financial constraints he or she will be working under, i.e. no money to bring anybody in, then they need to be a good coach and man manager to get the best from what we have and develop our younger players and make sure they get their chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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