Yoshi-1991 Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Anyone see. The TV pics of the 3 penalty shouts? ZFA handball should have been a pen. Erwin dived, can't think of the third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 ZFA handball should have been a pen. Erwin dived, can't think of the third. Ambrose went down "injured" thought it was to disguise a handball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Let's forget about the fact it was 1-0 for a second.....we got absolutely annihilated. Celtic must have missed about 6 or 7 utterly guilt-edged chances that on another day they would have taken. There are so many players in our team who need moved on quickly.... Kerr, Ramsden, Angol, Law, Vigurs and Sutton...all utterly pish. McManus was half-decent, the keeper had a blinder, Ojamma worked his socks off, Carswell and Lasley have had better games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Ambrose went down "injured" thought it was to disguise a handball? Nah hammered him in the chest. Only pen should have been ZFA handball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweed Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Unusually for a game that we lost against Celtic when a couple of decisions went against us, I thought the referee was absolutely outstanding. Angol's handball was ball to hand at close range, the red card was ferocious and DOGSO and Erwin blatantly dived. As for us, we really don't learn do we? Dundee United waltzed through us time and again last week and this week we let an even better team do the same. Ramsden had a day to forget. Kerr's backpass could have been firmer but he was rushed by Guidetti (who despite not been at his best today, is one of the best movers I've seen at Fir Park for years) and it was good enough but Ramsden seemed to shield it from Dan and then run out the road. Was just kamikaze nonsense. Johansen and Stokes certainly punished us there. Celtic missed so many chances, especially in the ten minutes after the red card it was frightening. However as they kept missing you could see the belief coming to our guys. My learned and drunken friend behind me told me with each passing sitter that this had 1-1 written all over it and when Ainsworth put that ball in, I believed for a second! On the differing reactions to Vigurs and Ojamaa giving the ball away the reason for that, in my view, is that when Ojamaa does it he tracks back and attempts to win it back. When Vigurs does it, he sometimes does that, he sometimes makes a halfhearted retraction and he sometimes stands and admires the view. Positives are that we clung into the game, Ferguson did well when he came on, despite the miss and dive Erwin looked lively as did Ainsworth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Games v Celtic will not dictate where we end up this season but at the end of the day only ONCE in the last NINE games have we managed to avoid defeat!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Baffled by the decision to only allow 2 minutes added time. All subs used plus Ambrose down injured. Obviously Celtic being up against it for the last couple of minutes played a part in the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweed Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Baffled by the decision to only allow 2 minutes added time. All subs used plus Ambrose down injured. Obviously Celtic being up against it for the last couple of minutes played a part in the decision. Ambrose and Kerr injuries plus 1 sub equaled 2 minutes in the first half 5 subs in second half but we did our two together so only four stoppages in play equaled 2 minutes in second half Seemed fair enough to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Nah hammered him in the chest. Only pen should have been ZFA handball. thought the flag went up fpr offside on that one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxywell Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Watched it on the tele and i'm quite surprised that people who were their thought Lasley had a poor game, for me he was our best outfield player, always looking for the ball and covered more grass than most.Angol looked ok but he lacks confidence when it comes to taking a man on, he's always looking for a sideways or backwards pass rather than having a go at somebody.Vigurs was utter rubbish barring a couple of decent bits of skill, he can't do the simple thing.Half a dozen times he had a pass on but proceeded to run about with the ball like a headless chicken before losing it.Our best players by far was Twardzik again, could have been worse than last year if they'd been a bit more clinical though. As for the pens I thought Angols was a certain pen, he moved his arm up towards the ball and the cross came from a good 10 yards away.None of the others were pens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Best laugh of the game for me was the flag at half time displaying Baillieston Battalion. Battalion of what exactly? Irish freedom fighters I suppose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StipeIsGod Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 The problem with Lasley, for me, is that all of his current charging about the pitch leaves a huge gap which is continually exploited. It's not good, it's ill disciplined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 The problem with Lasley, for me, is that all of his current charging about the pitch leaves a huge gap which is continually exploited. It's not good, it's ill disciplined. He must be told to charge forward though while Vigurs 'sits'. It's been a long time since Lasley played a disciplined role in front of defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacol Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 The problem with Lasley, for me, is that all of his current charging about the pitch leaves a huge gap which is continually exploited. It's not good, it's ill disciplined. I feel the problem is the balance of midfield, Lasley needs support beside him that Vigurs can't offer. Carswell or Lawson would provide better balance. Leave Vigurs on the bench he could be a good impact player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 What i'd do with Vigours is run his ARSE off at training all week. If he could actually run he's technically not bad but he's a lazy c---. <_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottW1886 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 1417963949[/url]' post='426400']What i'd do with Vigours is run his ARSE off at training all week. If he could actually run he's technically not bad but he's a lazy c---. <_> Your complete inability to spell the names of most of our players has convinced that your football opinion is worth taking note of. It's Vigurs, as it has been every day of his life. As for calling him lazy, well that's just lazy rehashing of a popular view amongst his detractors. The guy is always looking for the ball and is then faced with a static set of team mates. The fact that a defender who was culpable for the goal yesterday and then got himself sent off was given a standing ovation as he departed, while a midfielder who never hid and was at least trying to make something happen was hounded routinely says it all for me... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee jo Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Exactly how can you give a guy an ovation for a red card when they didn't even need the physio on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 No man of match thread for this ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 ooohhhh don't start on vigurs on here ,,or his lazy arsed fan club will have you oh and he won the ball well yesterday and with the option of 3 passes , HE PASSED IT FOR A SHY TO THEM ,,,,,, hes a lazy passenger ,,,,,,, oh yes hes got skill . but right now we need more than that ???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 No man of match thread for this ?? Andy is away , and I forgot to ask if he would be online.. added one now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 1417949492[/url]' post='426383']The problem with Lasley, for me, is that all of his current charging about the pitch leaves a huge gap which is continually exploited. It's not good, it's ill disciplined. Lasley was the man who was up with Erwin at the end when he chose to go for the curler. If he had slipped Las in there would have been a better chance of a goal. However he may have taken Lasley's finishing into consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Vigurs is the best footballer in our team, but you also wouldn't want him beside you in the trenches. It's called a Relegation Battle for a reason and he's not the guy we need for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 frazzle ......................... YIP ,,, SAME.. :wallbash: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Absolute nonsense, a creative player like Vigurs is exactly what we need when we're struggling to score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 I'm in the Vigurs is lazy camp. That or the guy has a worse engine than Ross Forbes. Dunno what's worse not wanting to work hard or just not being able to. Lawson showed more ability in 45 minutes against Utd than Vigurs has all season. I just don't see him as the creative genius that he is made out to be. Yes he can do a nice pirouette in the middle of the park but what's the point if you constantly give the ball away, and then worst of all don't give 100% to try and win it back. He totally hung Hammell out to dry in the home game against Stjarnan which led to the second goal with his defensive indiscipline and has continued in the same vein ever since. Yesterday he was blowing out his arse after 15 mins, constantly gave the ball away and was far too easily knocked off the ball. Izaguirre ghosting past him at the back post was classic Vigurs. He started in exactly the same way last season and then to his credit slowly came on to a game, but I can't see that happening this season unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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