grizzlyg Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Ye lets hope we get a victory tonight and hopefully the positive vibes will come back. I would be worried if were detached but not much between a lot of the teams. COYW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilmour Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Play offs a certainty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Play offs a certainty. Is there not about 6 points separating 5th and 11th just now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Play offs a certainty. Definitely a certainty. We just don't know who for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Is there not about 6 points separating 5th and 11th just now? There is 7 points between 11th and 4th. And 36 points to play for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 There is 7 points between 11th and 4th. And 36 points to play for. Including tonight we have 39 points to play for. Of the previous 39 points we have taken 15. Which repeated would probably see us in the play off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Including tonight we have 39 points to play for. Of the previous 39 points we have taken 15. Which repeated would probably see us in the play off. I think 41 points (26 +15) would see us safe. Be unlucky to end up in the play off's with that total I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I think 41 points (26 +15) would see us safe. Be unlucky to end up in the play off's with that total I think. We would have needed 42 to miss the play off last season. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 We would have needed 42 to miss the play off last season. . Shit!!! Maybe I am getting confused by Claudio Ranieri mentioning 40 points for safety in the EPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Shit!!! Maybe I am getting confused by Claudio Ranieri mentioning 40 points for safety in the EPL. 40 does it most years. 9 out of 15 seasons. Record tally for third bottom is 44 points, the only time a team has got more than 42 points. I'm guessing though that due to the compact nature of the league this season this years points total to escape the bottom two spots will be one of the higher ones, perhaps even a record total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 So hoping for 16 points from the last 12 games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezz Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Although we're only 4 points off 4th, assuming we finish bottom 6 we only have 3 games left against teams in the top half as the table currently stands. Celtic, Aberdeen and Inverness. On that basis, you would like to think 15 or so points from the remaining games would be do-able. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I'm guessing though that due to the compact nature of the league this season this years points total to escape the bottom two spots will be one of the higher ones, perhaps even a record total. It does look more likely that the eight teams bunched up will all continue to be inconsistent rather than one or two falling away. It's possible that you could have 8 teams on 30-33 points on Saturday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Although we're only 4 points off 4th, assuming we finish bottom 6 we only have 3 games left against teams in the top half as the table currently stands. Celtic, Aberdeen and Inverness. On that basis, you would like to think 15 or so points from the remaining games would be do-able. It would be much better to make the top 6 though and know we are safe with the last 5 games to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezz Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 It would be much better to make the top 6 though and know we are safe with the last 5 games to go. This is very true and would be the idea scenario. Bit extra cash and no squeaky bums like last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 The reason I mentioned the 7 point gap ealier in this thread is that it is nonsense talking about relegation in any form at this stage. All the teams excluding Celtic, Aberdeen and Hearts have been really inconsistent this season and can't get any run of form going. We are in the same boat. All it would take for us to go on say a 3 game winning run and we could then be clear of danger. League and current form of all the teams is far to close to call to make any talk of relegation a certainty. Last nights result is a very good point of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Verheul Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I know it's a bit if your auntie had baws she'd be your uncle but if we hadn't lost all those last minute goals we would be sitting in 4th place just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 The table at the moment is skewed down to a number of postponements. Partick's games in hand are: Hearts (a) (loss) St Johnstone (h) (draw) Dundee Utd (h) (win) ICT Hearts (h) (draw) St Johnstone (a) (draw) St. Johnstone Partick (a) (draw) ICT (h) (draw) Dundee Celtic (h) (loss) Partick are averaging just over a point a game so you'd think 4 points from 9. I've indicated in red what the form and league placing suggests plus home advantage. ICT 2 points and St. Johnstone 2 points also. It may help us that they all play each other so draws help our cause. Which if we use 26 games today as a datum the truer reflection of the league table could (helmet on) be: 4 Inverness CT 34 5 St Johnstone 34 6 Ross County 33 7 Dundee 33 8 Partick Thistle 32 9 Motherwell 29 10 Hamilton 29 11 Killie 27 So to the split, 7 games to gain 4 points for top 6, all it needs is a little momentum as Ross County showed last season. CAVEAT: All is based on conjecture and hope, consider this and count to 10 before you feel the need to poke holes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I dont think you will be too far off with that G&F. I do think we need to put positions to the side (for now...) because basically any team from 4th to 10th can realistically be dragged into the playoff fight if they lose few on the bounce and another wins a few on the bounce. Post split will be very interesting as I think it will very tight and with team playing each other will come down to the head to heads probably. In summary, lets win all our remaining games pre split. Cheers Motherwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I found this on Twitter.Here's a spread of possible positions following fixtures on 21st Feb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 6-0 needed for sixth (or seventh). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I found this on Twitter. Here's a spread of possible positions following fixtures on 21st Feb Where was that posted? Quite an interesting way of looking at the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Inside the spfl or @agentScotland in twitter land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezz Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Where was that posted? Quite an interesting way of looking at the league. I follow this guy on Twitter too. He actually post up some interesting stuff on league table permutations, attendance statistics etc and actually does quite well to deal with all the shite he gets from old firm fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgey Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 That Twitter chart does box it off really. The majority of teams in the SPFL buy from the same bargain footballer shop and almost all of them have to rebuild at the end of every season, so inconsistency and league position jostling are inevitable. Realistically, there are four teams fighting to avoid 11th. All it takes is any one team to go on a run and they are safe. I believe that given the next five fixtures, we could just be that team. We've had our bad run, and whilst we'll never turn into Barcelona, there is enough in that squad to put us in a comfortable position before the split. Conversely, one team could plummet allowing the rest of the pack to breath easy. But as our 2016 results show, you could be utter dogshit and still be within touching distance due to the inconsistency of others. It'll be interesting to see how Kilmarnock respond to the new gaffer. Clark has a fairly good rep down south and if he hits the ground running, could manage to get them to put a run together. Thistle will manage to limp over the line just as unspectacularly as they have been all season. Which leaves Accies. What can be said about accies without heart ruling head? I think/hope that come season end, they will be in 11th and will get their arses well felt in the play offs!! And then, they can take their joob joob manager, amateur league pitch and pitiful excuse stadium back to where it belongs in the lower leagues. Either way, we have a major rebuilding job to do for next season and with hibs and the Rangers back in amongst it, it'll become even more difficult for us to stay in the top flight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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