Well Well Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I hope we survive in the league and when/if that happens I will gladly hold the front door of the stadium open so that I can watch all those so called professional footballers be kicked out the club come the end of the season. I have absolutely no sympathy with the vast majority getting moved on. Lets see how many offers they get with a reputation as completely unprofessional, lazy, no guts players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 How does it discount that argument? He's quite rightly pointing out that the majority of Erwin's chances have come from his pace and skill on the ball to turn defenders. John Sutton just doesn't have that, which is the point that's being made! Sutton's positional sense and timing to make runs is far, far superior. And of course, so is his actual finishing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 And you can bet it's the same vultures who complained we don't give youth a chance. The Erwin situation is about whether he is the right player at the moment with the situation the club is in, not about giving youth a chance. He's had 36 appearances this season, he got his chance, he's picked every week and right now should be considered as a first team player, not a youth kicking around on the sidelines looking for an avenue into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Football is a simple game. You can't win without scoring goals. At this time, Big Sutton scores goals. Does exactly what it says on his tin. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. As such Big Handsome has been a tasty signing for us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Was speaking to a guy yesterday who is involved full-time in Scottish Football at a fairly high level... His opinion on Sutton...he'll score goals in a team doing well, creating plenty of chances in and around the penalty box...if that team is toiling then Sutton would be as well sitting in the stand let alone being on the bench, as he can't create anything himself. He also reckoned that Motherwell were gearing up to have a mass clear-out of players in the Summer regardless of what league we ended up being in, with Sutton almost certain to leave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Was speaking to a guy yesterday who is involved full-time in Scottish Football at a fairly high level... His opinion on Sutton...he'll score goals in a team doing well, creating plenty of chances in and around the penalty box...if that team is toiling then Sutton would be as well sitting in the stand let alone being on the bench, as he can't create anything himself. He also reckoned that Motherwell were gearing up to have a mass clear-out of players in the Summer regardless of what league we ended up being in, with Sutton almost certain to leave. Pillow talk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebsbarmyarmy Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Was speaking to a guy yesterday who is involved full-time in Scottish Football at a fairly high level... His opinion on Sutton...he'll score goals in a team doing well, creating plenty of chances in and around the penalty box...if that team is toiling then Sutton would be as well sitting in the stand let alone being on the bench, as he can't create anything himself. He also reckoned that Motherwell were gearing up to have a mass clear-out of players in the Summer regardless of what league we ended up being in, with Sutton almost certain to leave. Been saying the exact same thing for months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well 4 Europe Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Seen an article this morning where Nigel Clough says Sheffield United plan on activating a clause to extend George Long's contract before sending him back on loan to us again for next season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn_Broomfield Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Seen an article this morning where Nigel Clough says Sheffield United plan on activating a clause to extend George Long's contract before sending him back on loan to us again for next season.. Hell no!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 He also reckoned that Motherwell were gearing up to have a mass clear-out of players in the Summer regardless of what league we ended up being in, with Sutton almost certain to leave. We certainly need to ditch a number of players. Injuries forced our hand to bring in extra bodies during the window, but that could never be more than a short term solution to meet an immediate need. Plus, you never get the best players in the January window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Was speaking to a guy yesterday who is involved full-time in Scottish Football at a fairly high level... His opinion on Sutton...he'll score goals in a team doing well, creating plenty of chances in and around the penalty box...if that team is toiling then Sutton would be as well sitting in the stand let alone being on the bench, as he can't create anything himself. He also reckoned that Motherwell were gearing up to have a mass clear-out of players in the Summer regardless of what league we ended up being in, with Sutton almost certain to leave. same could be said of many goalscorers, thats why they are called scorers and not playmakers or whatever. how many chances did gerd Muller make for himself? Sutton does his job if others do their's. and this is where it spills over into the managers responsibility to set up the team for everyone to do their job. Howfing longballs to sutton is a proven failed option but yet we have done it over and over !!! Considering how pish we have been and with Sutton's playing time reduced he is still only 1 goal away from being second top scorer ( equal ) in the league Again down to the manager, if you field a team incapable of making chances then don't play sutton. Having said that if you play ainsworth and Johnston as wide players I would have Sutton starting and pick from Erwin or McDonald to support him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Let's hope not. So much better out there. One of the main reasons we are were we are just now. Ok who would you go for to improve the team that given our budget / wage structure would be willing to sign for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk_in_drublic Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Same as Jam 20. McDonald seemed like a no-brainer last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 How do you know we didn't go for him? Transfer windows aren't just glorified kidnapping...the player is allowed a say in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk_in_drublic Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I don't know if we did or we didn't. It probably made too much sense to bring in McDonald in the summer of 2014. So on that basis I would expect it would have at least been considered. On the other hand, maybe it wasn't because in terms of goalkeepers, we've made a right cunt of it of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Or maybe we did and he just wasn't interested? I just find it weird that it's always the general consensus that because we didn't sign someone it was because we didn't try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk_in_drublic Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Either way, we're both no further to validating t one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chummy Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Was speaking to a guy yesterday who is involved full-time in Scottish Football at a fairly high level... His opinion on Sutton...he'll score goals in a team doing well, creating plenty of chances in and around the penalty box...if that team is toiling then Sutton would be as well sitting in the stand let alone being on the bench, as he can't create anything himself. He also reckoned that Motherwell were gearing up to have a mass clear-out of players in the Summer regardless of what league we ended up being in, with Sutton almost certain to leave. no shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 If we were interested in McDonald, we'd have been sounding him out long before the first day of summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoojy Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Pretty clear from day one of the summer that our management team decided to take a 3rd choice Dundee keeper on the basis of 5 games! I don't think we looked any further than that. In fact I'm pretty certain of it. But who knows. It was pointed out at the time Twardzik had previously been training with the club before signing with Dundee. The club had wanted to sign him at that point but there was no room in the budget and/or they already had enough goalies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I fear we're going to miss the boat for next season. Being involved in the play-offs probably means that we'll not be persuading anyone to sign for us until we know which division we'll be in. It's our own fault but other teams will already be sounding out players for next season and I see that Dundee have just signed a defender from QoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Fulham were apparently scouting Erwin at St Mirren the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 And will be enquiring about Stevie Mallen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacol Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Pretty clear from day one of the summer that our management team decided to take a 3rd choice Dundee keeper on the basis of 5 games! I don't think we looked any further than that. In fact I'm pretty certain of it. But who knows. Agree pretty much with that. Also it was Marshall who decided on the keepers to sign during McCalls time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Was speaking to a guy yesterday who is involved full-time in Scottish Football at a fairly high level... His opinion on Sutton...he'll score goals in a team doing well, creating plenty of chances in and around the penalty box...if that team is toiling then Sutton would be as well sitting in the stand let alone being on the bench, as he can't create anything himself. He also reckoned that Motherwell were gearing up to have a mass clear-out of players in the Summer regardless of what league we ended up being in, with Sutton almost certain to leave. Same Sutton that only three players in the league have scored more goals than this season despite only starting 2/3rds of the season? If Sutton has proved anything this season it's that he can score goals in a piss poor team. I'll repeat, the only players in the league who have scored more goals than Sutton this season are two shortlisted PotY candidates (Stewart, Rooney) and a guy that just got called up to the Scotland squad (Griffiths). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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