superward Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Rosler bagged at Leeds. Erwin will have to prove it to a new manager now. Always likely to happen under Leeds current owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Moult was getting into the nack of scoring goals before he was dropped and then shifted to the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous Wee Grafter Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 What you've done their is reel off a list of Motherwell strikers simply because you don't like Sutton. Sutton scored more goals in one season than a lot of those guys Motherwell careers combined. Spencer? Who ripped the club off and didn't try a leg for a whole season on massive wages? Falconer? Actually quite a similar style player to Sutton but with less goals or club longevity? Blackman? Lehman? Goodman? Really? Might as well throw in Stevie Cowan, Bart Verheul and Mario Dorner in there, if that's what you really think. Who said I didn't like John Sutton? I have no ill-feeling towards him. My list is based on footballing ability alone. I'd take all those mentioned above at their footballing peak over auld handsome at his peak. If you don't like it, ack I won't lose any sleep over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 At the time he left there was a great debate on here about whether it was a crime to let him go or whether he'd simply had his day. We didn't let him go, he chose to go to St Johnstone. Quite rightly imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgey Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Mare - Porter, McCulloch, Foran. You could also fire in Elliott & McCormick as would rather play them up front than Sutton. Oops..... Being a coltness boy, I am alien to such language. My humblest apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davef Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Surprised , unless I've missed it, nobody has mentioned Jim Hamilton,---- Goal of the Decade wasn't it! For the Record, in my opinion John Sutton was great for us, not the most mobile but knew where the net was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Sutton had a nack for being in the right place at the right time. But he brought little else to the gameYou say that as if being in the right place at the right time isn't one of the most important skills a Number 9 can have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 You say that as if being in the right place at the right time isn't one of the most important skills a Number 9 can have. No, not at all. Big John, I think, when he was in form and the team played and was built for him he was magic. Superb finisher most of the time and a guaranteed double figures goals stat every season. But when the team wasnt structured around his strengths or they couldnt play to them he offered little else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Big John, I think, when he was in form and the team played and was built for him he was magic. Superb finisher most of the time and a guaranteed double figures goals stat every season. But when the team wasnt structured around his strengths or they couldnt play to them he offered little else. Absolutely. Suts was a one dimensional player. If we were on top in a game and could get the ball into the box then he'd do the business. However if we had to play counter attacking football or he had to play up front on his own then he didn't offer much. Latterly he just didn't suit our style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinky Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I'm personally a big fan of Sutton. I think some of the comments on here about him being unfit are ridiculous as he would run himself into the ground every game even if it wasn't going his way. I think a great example was the 6-6 game against hibs where he didn't give up and kept looking for a goal. Some of his link up play with Murphy was great and to have a striker in your team who is guaranteed to get 10 goals or more a season is a fabulous asset at this level. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 What you've done their is reel off a list of Motherwell strikers simply because you don't like Sutton. Sutton scored more goals in one season than a lot of those guys Motherwell careers combined. Spencer? Who ripped the club off and didn't try a leg for a whole season on massive wages? Falconer? Actually quite a similar style player to Sutton but with less goals or club longevity? Blackman? Lehman? Goodman? Really? Might as well throw in Stevie Cowan, Bart Verheul and Mario Dorner in there, if that's what you really think. As a dyed-in-the-wool Sutton detractor, I've got to agree with Ya Bezzer here. Some of the names on your list Infamous Wee Grafter, are shockers I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmostFrazzled Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 The criticism of Sutty is quite sad really. Gannon had him tasked with running the channels despite him having the pace of a man pulling a caravan and last year we gave him absolutely no service yet he still finished our top goalscorer by some distance. If you play a style of football which suits him, i.e. battering the ball to his feet in the 6-yard box he had a knack of getting a foot in front of a defender and invariably scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 The criticism of Sutty is quite sad really. Gannon had him tasked with running the channels despite him having the pace of a man pulling a caravan and last year we gave him absolutely no service yet he still finished our top goalscorer by some distance. That was more Brown, wasn't it? He stuck Sutton on the left a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous Wee Grafter Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 As a dyed-in-the-wool Sutton detractor, I've got to agree with Ya Bezzer here. Some of the names on your list Infamous Wee Grafter, are shockers I'm afraid. Name them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscot Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Alwright , best striker in well jersey .TC for me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmostFrazzled Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 That was more Brown, wasn't it? He stuck Sutton on the left a few times. Brown shovelled him it wide left quite often. Gannon was playing 4-5-1 with Sutton as a channel running striker before siging Jutkiewitz and latterly going mental and heading out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Suprised nobody has yet mentioned how handsome the big bastard was! Really liked Sutton, I'd say he found his level with us. Was delighted his last kick with us was what it was, was a fitting way to finish a great day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Name them Falconer Blackman Lehmann Goodman John Hendry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Falconer Blackman Lehmann Goodman John Hendry We got Goodman well past his prime but in his day he was a decent player, Blackman also had potential but never showed it. As for the other 3 i agree they were terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well 4 Europe Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 We got Goodman well past his prime but in his day he was a decent player, Blackman also had potential but never showed it. As for the other 3 i agree they were terrible. Blackman scored 10 goals in 17 starts for Motherwell, what were you expecting exactly? Admittedly he downed tools for his final few games once he got a new contract at Blackburn sorted but you can't say he didn't do us a turn when he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't think he picked the tools up again when he went to Aberdeen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 He didnt, but i believe he's got the full toolkit with him this season. Scoring goals for fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestwickwell Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I was a big fan of Sutton. Patrick Thistle away last season was enough to convince me his time was up though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous Wee Grafter Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Falconer Blackman Lehmann Goodman John Hendry Oi I never mentioned John Hendry, no one mentioned him. Don Goodman, as someone mentioned above, came to Scotland to pretty much retire. During the late 80s & early 90s, he was far superior to John Sutton. He was bought for fees over 750k(91/92) & 900k(94/95) and to put those fees into comparison, Man United bought Roy Keane for only 3.75m in 1993. Im sure you'll agree he was playing in a higher standard back then than recent years' SPFL/SPL. Nick Blackman - again his transfer moves suggest that clubs disagree with your opinion. A club has even paid over a million bucks for the fella. Handsome in his most potential era moved to Millwall for less than a 100k. He's then been available at least 6 times for a free transfer and Hearts have been the "biggest" club to sign him. Why didn't the likes of Sheff United/Reading etc come calling on a freebie but opted for the likes of Blackman, Murphy, Higdon etc?? Do you honestly believe he could have played in the English Premiership like Blackman has? Willie Falconer - again perhaps forgotten about him but as a kid he managed to play in a very successful Aberdeen(including SAF's era) team before heading south to Watford for a fee over 250k. Now again, surely you agree that the standard of football in the 80s & 90s was far better than Sutton's SPFL/SFL era? Dirk Lehmann - our paths first crossed during 1998/99 when he played with Fulham(they romped the league) in the same division as City. I used to watch quite a bit of this league and the standard wasn't too shabby. I've no doubts that we'd bite our hands off for players like Lehmann, Dickov, Goater etc etc in recent years. Again perhaps by time he arrived at Fir Park his best days were behind him but i'd still pick him over JS. Impressive Hibs debut v us too, chuckle chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 We paid 100k for Iain Ferguson, fees in the early 90s were silly due to no Bosman ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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