Mad Dog Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Maybe Neill could make the step up next season? Don't know how his loan spell is going for him. Leaves us very light at the back though with the loanees gone and Kerr, Reid and Ramsden seemingly on their way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamst Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 We have 5 players that have scored more than once this season in the squad. McDonald will leave in the summer, I don't think there is much doubt about that. That leaves Sutton (11), Ainsworth (6), Erwin (4) and Vigurs (2). You want to 'bin' three of them. OK...... Vigurs is obviously out the door so you can discount him, Johnson will score more than 2 next season Erwin will improve hopefully into double figures if he stays D.Thomas if played regulary will replace Ainsworths goal and then some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Reading some of these posts and seeing people sticking up for Lawson, Law, Vigurs and ZFA we probably deserve to get relegated for sheer stupidity. Yep. Incredible revision from folk here. Lawson has been here for two seasons, and his contribution that anyone can remember is a first half against the Arabs. Get rid, immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Yep. Incredible revision from folk here. Lawson has been here for two seasons, and his contribution that anyone can remember is a first half against the Arabs. Get rid, immediately. Agreed, its unfortunate that he has been injured but he has been a wage thief and contributed feck all to the team in 2 seasons, punt him ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Agreed, its unfortunate that he has been injured but he has been a wage thief and contributed feck all to the team in 2 seasons, punt him ASAP. A wage thief! He has been totally scunnered with injuries and has never had a chnace to get a run in the team. I feel sorry for the guy as its not his fault. Very harsh post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 A wage thief! He has been totally scunnered with injuries and has never had a chnace to get a run in the team. I feel sorry for the guy as its not his fault. Very harsh post. OK maybe a bit harsh, but the fact still remains the club have probably invested a significant amount of cash in him over the last 2 seasons for no return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 OK maybe a bit harsh, but the fact still remains the club have probably invested a significant amount of cash in him over the last 2 seasons for no return. Do clubs not have insurance that pays out in these kinds of situations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 It's all a bit silly this chat because it all depends on who we can get in...the 'there must be someone better out there' stuff is a silly way of thinking. Equally, wanting to keep someone just because they have been good in the past for us is also not the right approach in every instance. Would I bin Sutton and Ainsworth if I knew we could get someone better in? Aye. Would I bin Sutton and Ainsworth if I couldn't get someone better in? No. Apply that to everyone out of contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The African Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Lawson's murder and one of the worst signings we've ever made. Nothing like the worst. No offence to the guy, but Mike Larnach will take some beating when it comes to "worst signing ever". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Nothing like the worst. No offence to the guy, but Mike Larnach will take some beating when it comes to "worst signing ever". I'll raise you Jim Gillespie lol. Mike Larnach was a marquee signing (he'd been scoring goals for fun for Clydebank - alongside the late great Davie Cooper - before he moved south to Newcastle) - yeah he was mince, but definitely not the worst, but that debate is probably for a seperate thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Lawson played in the right position with the right team could be a quality player for us. Much like Sutton if we build the team around and for him...a lot of the time he is ineffective Much like Vigurs if we build the team around and for him...a lot of the time he is ineffective Just two other examples of players that cab be effective in the right format but can also equally be so so ineffective a lot of the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 I'll raise you Jim Gillespie lol. Mike Larnach was a marquee signing (he'd been scoring goals for fun for Clydebank - alongside the late great Davie Cooper - before he moved south to Newcastle) - yeah he was mince, but definitely not the worst, but that debate is probably for a seperate thread. Jim Gillespie was bad, but he was no John Reilly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestwickwell Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 John Davies was the worst I can remember. After watching the semi final there Jamie Macdonald would definitely do a job for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebsbarmyarmy Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Bob McHugh scoring two for Airdrie today and Chris Cadden scoring for Albion who won promotion. Well done lads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Chris Cadden a league winner, is he still with us next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_Superwell Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Cadden is out of contract I believe Ropy but I believe the coaches think quite highly of him so I reckon he might get another year at Motherwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilmour Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Jim Gillespie was bad, but he was no John Reilly. Straker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 We could spend hours going over whose been crap for us through the years. In our current predicament we need to focus on the here and now and hopefully we survive in the SPL and can have a good thread on this during the summer. Lawson has been pish for us..Remember the Aberdeen cup game v 10 men last season then he's been the most injured player in Europe into the bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 We could spend hours going over whose been crap for us through the years. In our current predicament we need to focus on the here and now and hopefully we survive in the SPL and can have a good thread on this during the summer. Lawson has been pish for us..Remember the Aberdeen cup game v 10 men last season then he's been the most injured player in Europe into the bargain. DEWELL has called a MORITORIUM. That's it close down all unrelated threads. How will focusing on the HERE and now in a forum help our survival - only the PLAYERS and MANAGEMENT can do that. This is a forum FFS. Oh and I fail to see how you come to that conclusion on Lawson - nobody's seen enough of him in a Claret & Amber jersey to form an opinion of any kind, be it good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 We could spend hours going over whose been crap for us through the years. In our current predicament we need to focus on the here and now and hopefully we survive in the SPL and can have a good thread on this during the summer. Lawson has been pish for us..Remember the Aberdeen cup game v 10 men last season then he's been the most injured player in Europe into the bargain. Now, this is a factually accurate post if I've ever seen one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 DEWELL has called a MORITORIUM. That's it close down all unrelated threads. How will focusing on the HERE and now in a forum help our survival - only the PLAYERS and MANAGEMENT can do that. This is a forum FFS. Oh and I fail to see how you come to that conclusion on Lawson - nobody's seen enough of him in a Claret & Amber jersey to form an opinion of any kind, be it good or bad. Lawson could be the greatest player in the country, but if he is constantly injured he is feck all use to anybody. The club have invested a lot of cash over the last 2 seasons in him, wages, bonuses etc for no return so he needs to go. If he had played enough to show he had the potential to be a good addition to the team then he might have been worth another contract, but as it stands we need to let him go, the money could be better spent on players who would actually play once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Lawson could be the greatest player in the country, but if he is constantly injured he is feck all use to anybody. The club have invested a lot of cash over the last 2 seasons in him, wages, bonuses etc for no return so he needs to go. If he had played enough to show he had the potential to be a good addition to the team then he might have been worth another contract, but as it stands we need to let him go, the money could be better spent on players who would actually play once in a while. Agree totally, I never said he should get a new contract - my comment was aimed purely at the ".... he was pish for us", unsubstantiated crap that we witness on here week in and week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Lawson played in the right position with the right team could be a quality player for us. Much like Sutton if we build the team around and for him...a lot of the time he is ineffective Much like Vigurs if we build the team around and for him...a lot of the time he is ineffective Just two other examples of players that cab be effective in the right format but can also equally be so so ineffective a lot of the time. 100% spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coatsy Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Can't afford players that are continually injured no matter how good they are/ were 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Can't afford players that are continually injured no matter how good they are/ wereVery true. Not saying we keep Lawson at all - that maybe got lost in the conversation. Just making the argument there is a good player in there and injuries aside he could have been right good for us. I don't know who I would keep - all depends on who we can get in. That even includes the likes of Kerr and ZFA who I am not fans of. But no point in letting go if we can't get another player in/or have a youth who is as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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