Gaag Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Competitive game in June? It'll be like playing in Europe all over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn_Broomfield Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Must win at all costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Surely Hammell will fit enough for this? He's played at least a couple of games for the under 20's. If Pearo's carrying a knock then get Grant in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Surely Hammell will fit enough for this? He's played at least a couple of games for the under 20's. If Pearo's carrying a knock then get Grant in there. Agree with both points there. Hammell has 3 U20 games under his belt so I expect him to come in. Pearo and Johnson didn't look fit to me to be honest hopefully will be. I hear Laing is out for the rest of the season too so a decision to be made. Thomas looked to be limping at the end also so that is a worry. I'd go Long Law Ramsden McM Hammy Las Ainsworth Pearo Johnson Skippy Sutton I want to drop Long, Lasley and Ainsworth but we have no better replacements in my opinion. Erwin needs a rest and as long as we don't just play long ball to Sutton then he can do some sort of 60/70 shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAM Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I don't see Ramsden coming in a centre half as I don't think he has played there since Barra came in either for the first team or U20's. If Laing is out I'd expect it to be Kerr or O'Brien coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I don't see Ramsden coming in a centre half as I don't think he has played there since Barra came in either for the first team or U20's. If Laing is out I'd expect it to be Kerr or O'Brien coming in. I think you are right but I would prefer him over Kerr. Completely forgot about OB - is he still suspended/injured or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 i'd rather see Dan in goals than Long. Doesn't seem like Long commands his box or comes for crosses any more than Dan did, plus I think Dan is a better shot stopper than Long. Regarding Hammy, I would start him. if he struggles then straker can always come on. if Laing is out then I would start O'Brien. I just don't rate Kerr at all in any position. Up front is a hard one which 2 out of McDonald, Sutton and Erwin to play? I don't think Erwin needs a rest. I'd be tempted to play Erwin and Sutton. McDonald has not been as influential as I thought he would. We know Sutton can score and Erwin can provide the mobility and although he missed a few against accies he has been creating a lot more chances than he used to. For the longest time he was just contributing effort in chasing down balls and harassing defenders. Now, despite missing those chances against accies, he is more of a goal threat. The more chances you get the more you are likely to score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Intae themhttp://www.steelmenonline.co.uk/~yabba/1213/zf12.flv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 If we win this game it's very much game on. From looking at being nine points behind them we could see ourselves three points behind them. If the players aren't up for this game, then there really is no hope for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I don't think there is much, if anything, between Long and Twardzik. Certainly not enough to disrupt things by dropping Long. Erwin and Sutton does not work as far as I have seen so its one of them and Skippy for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 i'd rather see Dan in goals than Long. Doesn't seem like Long commands his box or comes for crosses any more than Dan did, plus I think Dan is a better shot stopper than Long. Regarding Hammy, I would start him. if he struggles then straker can always come on. if Laing is out then I would start O'Brien. I just don't rate Kerr at all in any position. Up front is a hard one which 2 out of McDonald, Sutton and Erwin to play? I don't think Erwin needs a rest. I'd be tempted to play Erwin and Sutton. McDonald has not been as influential as I thought he would. We know Sutton can score and Erwin can provide the mobility and although he missed a few against accies he has been creating a lot more chances than he used to. For the longest time he was just contributing effort in chasing down balls and harassing defenders. Now, despite missing those chances against accies, he is more of a goal threat. The more chances you get the more you are likely to score. For me Twardzik in goal for Long, Hammell for Straker, Sutton for Erwin and I probably agree with O'Brien for Lang if he's injured. I don't especially rate O'Brien or Kerr though. For the Dan malingers only one goal keeper in the league has made more saves than Twardzik this season (Accies McGovern) and he's not even played since January. He has 81 saves in 24 matches compared to Long's 13 saves in 10 matches. Put it another way, Twardzik saves 2 out of 3 shots on goal. Long saves 1 in 2 shots on goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 For me Twardzik in goal for Long, Hammell for Straker, Sutton for Erwin and I probably agree with O'Brien for Lang if he's injured. I don't especially rate O'Brien or Kerr though. For the Dan malingers only one goal keeper in the league has made more saves than Twardzik this season (Accies McGovern) and he's not even played since January. He has 81 saves in 24 matches compared to Long's 13 saves in 10 matches. Put it another way, Twardzik saves 2 out of 3 shots on goal. Long saves 1 in 2 shots on goal. I still don't think making a goalkeeper change at this stage is the right thing to do. It will unsettle the team more than settle it I think. Stats aside there is not much between them at all. Out of interest - what sites do you use for stats? (Serious question - not a dig) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Surely the 81 saves in 24 matches says more about our style of playing and the midfield capitulation putting our defenders under more pressure?More pressure = more saves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 i'd rather see Dan in goals than Long. Doesn't seem like Long commands his box or comes for crosses any more than Dan did, plus I think Dan is a better shot stopper than Long. Regarding Hammy, I would start him. if he struggles then straker can always come on. if Laing is out then I would start O'Brien. I just don't rate Kerr at all in any position. Up front is a hard one which 2 out of McDonald, Sutton and Erwin to play? I don't think Erwin needs a rest. I'd be tempted to play Erwin and Sutton. McDonald has not been as influential as I thought he would. We know Sutton can score and Erwin can provide the mobility and although he missed a few against accies he has been creating a lot more chances than he used to. For the longest time he was just contributing effort in chasing down balls and harassing defenders. Now, despite missing those chances against accies, he is more of a goal threat. The more chances you get the more you are likely to score. You are wrong about McDonald best player in the team and one of the minority that gives 100%,big handsome John is even slower than a week in the jail hes only a sub now and slows the team down if he starts ,unfortunately Erwin doesn't have an eye for goal like Sutton does yet but hes more mobile by a mile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I see the cream cookies have got us as favourites for this one. I honestly just can't see a win coming. Would have Hammell back in at LB and probably O'Brien in at centre half if Laing is not going to make it. Would be tempted to throw Grant into midfield as a replacement for Lasley. Pearson (if fit) has to stay in the XI. Up top it will always be Erwin and McDonald for me. Just need to hope that the team click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 For the Dan malingers only one goal keeper in the league has made more saves than Twardzik this season (Accies McGovern) and he's not even played since January. He has 81 saves in 24 matches compared to Long's 13 saves in 10 matches. Put it another way, Twardzik saves 2 out of 3 shots on goal. Long saves 1 in 2 shots on goal. Surely the 81 saves in 24 matches says more about our style of playing and the midfield capitulation putting our defenders under more pressure? More pressure = more saves? Was just about to say, this stat say nothing about the goalkeepers. As Yabba says it says a hell a lot more about how we played and how we are playing. It also saying nothing what so ever about the abilities of either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Was just about to say, this stat say nothing about the goalkeepers. As Yabba says it says a hell a lot more about how we played and how we are playing. It also saying nothing what so ever about the abilities of either. It says Long concedes more shots on target than Twardzik does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fal_Dosser Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I've nothing personal against Long, and I can't see IB dropping him, but for me, the lad looks the part, but just hasn't delivered - for a tall lad, he just doesn't command his area and by me reckoning, Dan is the better of the two. Long may well mature into a right good keeper, but he's not there yet ! Hopefully Johnstone will be fit, but either way, we have to play on the deck and through the midfield - there are times when a long punt may be the right ball, but resorting to this as a regular tactic is for me self defeating. We play and apply ourselves as we can, we win - if we don't, we better hope County have a real off day, cos we'll more than likely toil. Thinking positive. MON RA DOSSERS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Definitely feel more confident when Twardzik is between the sticks. Ramsden would be a starter for me anywhere across the back four, as at least he shows a bit of passion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 It says Long concedes more shots on target than Twardzik does. I think the confusion has come from missing out a key value (total shots on target) in your post. So it looks like you are using the first statements info to work out the second. e.g. Long's 13 saves in 10 matches. Long saves 1 in 2 shots on goal. Doing the maths in effect would mean he has had 26 shots (assumed on target?) into him which he has saved 13? Average dealing with 2.6 shots a game. So should read 13 saves in 10 matches, 26 shots on target = saves 1 in 2. The games played figure is redundant really. E.g. Twardzik 81 saves in 24 matches. Twardzik saves 2 out of 3 shots on goal That means he has had c 120 shots, 81 saves? Average dealing with 5 a game? Is that right? Twardzk is on 28 games too, but assuming you are only counting his 24 league games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Feel incredibly sorry for Twardzik, barely put a foot wrong but is replaced by an incompetent loanee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I take it you wern't at the at the Dundee game at Dens if you think Twardzik is ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Weren't at the Game at Dens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Twardzik made his fair share of mistakes from Iceland to Dundee however he pulled off save after save when we were getting battered every week. Would much rather seem him in the team as opposed to Long who looks disinterested, commands his area no better than Twardzik and isn't a particularly impressive shot stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 You are wrong about McDonald best player in the team and one of the minority that gives 100%,big handsome John is even slower than a week in the jail hes only a sub now and slows the team down if he starts ,unfortunately Erwin doesn't have an eye for goal like Sutton does yet but hes more mobile by a mile "McDonald has not been as influential as I thought he would". is what I said ok explain to me how I am wrong You know how influential I thought he was going to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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