Shire Greats Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 It's a fake atmosphere because it's young folk who are making it, and not the moaning old cunts who like to hark back to the glory days of the "real" casuals and suchlike. Yep, the days of the casuals was my era ,but I wasn't into that either, i always went to watch the game and I couldn't afford the gear either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 see back in the day? what if ye were a great fighter, but had rubbish gear? Were ye allowed in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 see back in the day? what if ye were a great fighter, but had rubbish gear? Were ye allowed in?Hamilton or Airdrie would take you in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real dosser Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 You beat the shit out of somebody who couldnae fight and took their stone island jaikit off them then went in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 No idea but there were a good few who had all the gear but didn't fancy the fighting and hung about at the back. I have to admit, I didn't do the gear or the fighting but I did have a Pringle jumper because my mum thought they looked smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 I was a good fighter and a good dresser... ...do I win??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 If you can call an atmosphere fake it's because what is happening in the stands is often unrelated to what's going on the park. The Ultra style is just to keep steady noise going for 90 mins regardless of what happening. Traditionally the fans reacted to the game in front of them. Not that often I agree with you but you have a valid point here. An Accies supporting colleague noted from the South Stand how little attention the "bois" seemed to pay to what was going on during the game. Whether that renders an atmosphere "fake" or not, I'm not sure but it is entirely different to the noise made when a crowd is genuinely excited by what's going on in front of them. This opens the can of worms of whether it should be down to the players to give the fans something to shout and sing about or whether it's down to the fans to create an atmosphere that encourages the players. For me, it's a bit of both... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 I was a good fighter and a good dresser... ...do I win??? Are/were you handsome? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Not that often I agree with you but you have a valid point here. An Accies supporting colleague noted from the South Stand how little attention the "bois" seemed to pay to what was going on during the game. Whether that renders an atmosphere "fake" or not, I'm not sure but it is entirely different to the noise made when a crowd is genuinely excited by what's going on in front of them. This opens the can of worms of whether it should be down to the players to give the fans something to shout and sing about or whether it's down to the fans to create an atmosphere that encourages the players. For me, it's a bit of both... why pay the money to go if you dont watch the game ? i noticed on Saturday 2nd half that a fair few of the bois seemed to be facing the crowd for long spells instead of watching the footie, one guy in particular seemed to be more interested in getting the rest singing and clapping in unison rather than doing what he paid in for i.e. watching the game. not knocking it each to their own etc but just seems a bit strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 why pay the money to go if you dont watch the game ? i noticed on Saturday 2nd half that a fair few of the bois seemed to be facing the crowd for long spells instead of watching the footie, one guy in particular seemed to be more interested in getting the rest singing and clapping in unison rather than doing what he paid in for i.e. watching the game. not knocking it each to their own etc but just seems a bit strange. It's a way of doing things that has been happening on the continent for years now... No doubt some of our support (and the Scottish football authorities) would have a hairy fit if they saw such over the top atmosphere at one of our games. Flares? Smoke Bombs? Atmosphere? Fans who paid in yet aren't choosing to sit in their seats and watch the game?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shire Greats Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 It's a way of doing things that has been happening on the continent for years now... No doubt some of our support (and the Scottish football authorities) would have a hairy fit if they saw such over the top atmosphere at one of our games. Flares? Smoke Bombs? Atmosphere? Fans who paid in yet aren't choosing to sit in their seats and watch the game?!? These guys in the pics all see fine except the last one.....those two guys could take somebody's eye out with their placards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 why pay the money to go if you dont watch the game ? i noticed on Saturday 2nd half that a fair few of the bois seemed to be facing the crowd for long spells instead of watching the footie, one guy in particular seemed to be more interested in getting the rest singing and clapping in unison rather than doing what he paid in for i.e. watching the game. not knocking it each to their own etc but just seems a bit strange. To be fair, they probably think it strange that some 'well fans complain about them adding colour to the games. For what its worth, whenever im at an away game and the conductor is facing the crowd, i quite enjoy it. Usually more interesting than whats on the pitch. I think its fair enough to moan at the bois when they pull out the flares, but to pass comment for not watching the game???? Come on man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 It's a way of doing things that has been happening on the continent for years now... No doubt some of our support (and the Scottish football authorities) would have a hairy fit if they saw such over the top atmosphere at one of our games. Flares? Smoke Bombs? Atmosphere? Fans who paid in yet aren't choosing to sit in their seats and watch the game?!? As over top as what happened to Werder Bremen? A fine which the club told the fans to pay or get tae Fuck - they duly paid? Also a couple of thousand with well placed smoke bombs/flares = atmosphere; a couple of hundred with a smoke bomb/pellat = a couple of hundred people with a smoke bomb/pellat. Saying that the Bois do a good job, and you seen, and heard the difference at the weekend, with my 6 year old even asking why he can't go over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain7_mfc Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Why do numbers make a difference regarding the usage of pyro? Any form of atmosphere at Motherwell games is a bonus regardless of how many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigeeze Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Lurks not allowed in Scottish football so why do it? Not like standing at grounds like those of us of an age remember and miss. Pyros have no place in football irrespective of what other countries / teams think or allow as IMO they add nothing unless blocking out the poor fare on the park counts. Also means the club looses money in fines we can ill afford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 The pyro at ibrox was shit hot and seemed to get the Well fans going...that whole atmosphere was tremendous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain7_mfc Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Lurks not allowed in Scottish football so why do it? Not like standing at grounds like those of us of an age remember and miss. Pyros have no place in football irrespective of what other countries / teams think or allow as IMO they add nothing unless blocking out the poor fare on the park counts. Also means the club looses money in fines we can ill afford. No club in Scotland has ever been fined for the use of pyrotechnics by fans within their grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Meanwhile the DFB don't even ask for an explanation before handing out fines. And that country is classed as a one of the most fan friendly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuwell Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 The pyro at ibrox was shit hot and seemed to get the Well fans going...that whole atmosphere was tremendous Think the atmosphere was bouncing before the pyro tbh - not that the pyro bothered me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Didn't notice it, was it down the front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Noticed the police weren't as keen to wade in at hampden tonight when it wasn't teenage kids.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shire Greats Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Noticed the police weren't as keen to wade in at hampden tonight when it wasn't teenage kids.... Whatabouttery!!!! Think this week has shown the many thing the police have to deal with.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Big massive Polish guys are much meaner than 16 yo Motherwell fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Think this week has shown the many thing the police have to deal with.... Whatabouttery!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shire Greats Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Big massive Polish guys are much meaner than 16 yo Motherwell fans.[/quote Probably, like I said whatabouttery ......Scotland's national sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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